BRB, on my way to withdraw all funding for an UN agency with 30.000 employees because 12 of them have been denounced by Israel.
Have they provided any proof yet?
The israeli “evidence” has been leaked and confirmed fake
But journalists from Sky News reviewed the so-called dossier and reported “The Israeli intelligence documents make several claims that Sky News has not seen proof of and many of the claims, even if true, do not directly implicate UNRWA.”
Britain’s Channel 4 also obtained the document and determined it “provides no evidence to support its explosive new claim that UNRWA staff were involved with terror attacks on Israel.” The Financial Times, which also reviewed the materials, reported there were specific allegations of direct participation in the October 7 attacks against four Palestinians employed by UNRWA, not 12 as originally asserted.
This was a transparent attempt by Israel to distract from the rulings in the ICJ genocide case and to obliterate a U.N. agency that Israel has long viewed as an impediment to its goal of denying Palestinians the right to return to the homes and territory from which Israel expelled them
The israeli “evidence” has been leaked and confirmed fake
Are the quotes you provided supposed to support the “confirmed fake” part of your comment?
Because “has not seen proof” and “provides no evidence” do not equate to “confirmed fake”.
The number of very online people who think countries share their intelligence with every Channel 4 news who asks is a little surprising.
No the evidence is fake. Evidence means that you can proof something happened which israel clearly can’t.
That’s bold considering all the things people on this site were so sure about only to be proven wrong weeks later.
For me, I’ll wait for the investigation to finish.
The “evidence” was already leaked and contained no proof whatsoever. Waiting must be convenient. Are we going to see the Hamas base under the hospital soon?
And it turned out israel lied almost every single time about almost everything.
But there is a problem with the gut-wrenching narratives that have bolstered the underlying justification for the slaughter of Gaza: They are either complete fabrications or have not been substantiated with a shred of evidence. Many have been thoroughly disproven by major Israeli media outlets.
Hamas had command tunnel under U.N. Gaza headquarters, Israeli military says
Reporters on the closely escorted trip entered a shaft next to a school on the periphery of the U.N. compound, descending to the concrete-lined tunnel. Twenty minutes of walking through the stifling hot, narrow and occasionally winding passage brought them underneath UNRWA Headquarters, an army lieutenant-colonel leading the tour said.
So, yeah. I think I’ll wait for the investigation to conclude.
They don’t need to provide any proof
https://theintercept.com/2024/02/07/gaza-israel-netanyahu-propaganda-lies-palestinians/
The evidence provided by Israel alleging that roughly a dozen UNRWA staffers participated in Hamas’s October 7 terror onslaught is “highly credible,” US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Monday, as media outlets published additional details on the implicated employees, including photos from an Israeli dossier. “We haven’t had the ability to investigate [the allegations] ourselves. But they are highly, highly credible,” Blinken said during a press conference
Until the information is verified by neutral third parties, this gives me some WMDs in Iraq vibes.
Both Israel and the US have a history of lying to justify war crimes and crimes against humanity.
I used to have faith that bad people will eventually pay for their crimes. That the weight of their sins will crush them eventually. But these past decades have taught me that the new response to crushing weight of sin is to simply get a stronger spine.
“We haven’t had the ability to investigate [the allegations] ourselves. But they are highly, highly credible,” Blinken said during a press conference
This sounds like something The Onion would have written.
Otoh, Blinken and Biden have parroted everything the IDF feeds them until independent journalists debunk it.
So we’ve cut funding without conducting any investigation. Great.
Remember the beheaded babies?
I feel like this is a little too accurate for shitpost. I don’t know the proper sub for it, but it’s pretty true.
Do you think they’d accept it on memes?
“Bad faith arguments” is not a reason to flag people in Lemmy Shitpost. Please do not abuse the flagging system again.
Then what good is your moderation? The whole fucking point of having you around is TO police bad faith arguing. That’s what mods are for
Mods are for enforcing community rules. This is a shitpost community, not a debate community. The rules are very clear on the sidebar and ‘bad faith arguments’ is not one of them.
Feel free to find a different community if you want to report ‘bad faith arguments’ multiple times. If you do it here, I’m going to tell you to stop before I act. Because I prefer give warnings.
And you can’t enforce ANY rule without protecting your people against bad faith arguing. It’s a foundation of ALL communities, whether explicitly written in its guidelines or not, because meaningful debate is the foundation of ALL human interaction and is primarily what abuse and harassment is.
The needs of your people are more important than your laziness, selfishness, and unwillingness to do your job. Don’t like it? Step the fuck down. You go find a different community to play king over if you don’t like it.
Okay, I think you need to take a break. We’ll see you in a week. I wouldn’t advise telling another mod to ‘step the fuck down.’ They might be less lenient.
I wouldn’t advise telling another mod to ‘step the fuck down.’
“Dont tell people abusing their power that they are abusing their power or they might abuse their power”
Yeah you should probably step down if that is your opinion…
@snek@lemmy.world Maybe you could Crosspost this to !politicalmemes@lemmy.ca if you’re on mobile and don’t have crosspost button just make a new post using the same link as this post
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/20e095d5-b044-4e69-b1d7-486f63ac3037.pngand it’ll count as a crosspost. So long as it’s the same link.Feel free to do it yourself
While the real life situation this is based off is quite sad and upsetting…
This is hilarious beyond belief.
“If you hate the death star so much, why don’t you go live on Alderaan?”
But does she condemn Hamas??
The Empire has a right to defend itself
The population should have handed over the evil Jedi to the Sith. The children in Alderaan were all complicit.
The weapons embargo in Alderaan prevented those people from handing over the Jedi. The Empire itself maintains that embargo! What were the people of Alderaan to do?
Omg, I thought Princess Leia would be more tolerant.
Really disappointed
This is some brilliantly spicy stuff, OP. Well done, I love it!
Oh good I was really thinking my shit posting community needed more agenda posts
I hear at least one of the Jedi was a Sith, good thing they were defunded. Now if we could only defund all the conspiracy theorists about the emperor being a Sith as well.
Well, she’s changed a lot after her 16th birthday:
The nose doesn’t look extremely weird anymore.
Wow, such a massive change.
Han fired first
Maclunkey
that sweet copium around here, even on lemmy, that’s so sweet
Both Israel and Hamas have blood on their hands. I know we all like the whole Good vs. Bad but in an eye for eye situation, they are both wrong. People, on both sides, suffer. If the politicians would fight on the front, they would be less eager to create these situations.
Edit: I am not defending the Israeli Actions nor the Hamas actions. It is fucked up situation. Israel in the first place, shouldn’t have been created. However it is, and they should make the best of it. WITHOUT COMMITTING GENOCIDE. For people who believe in a good God, they sure are willing to kill.
All I am saying is that the ones that are not fighting, are suffering. Rockets land in Gaza, Rockets land in Israel. People, yes on both sides, are dying.
I am against the actions of Hamas, I am very against the actions of Israel.
That’s like blaming Jews during world war 2 for putting up resistance against their fascist rulers. It is such a mischaracterization of the situation that it is damaging to the Palestinian people.
I’m sorry, but whose currently suffering on the Israeli side? Because Gaza is literally starving. And the Aid trucks are idling at the border with food that the IDF refuses to let through.
Possibly the families of some of the people killed by Hamas. I bet they’re suffering.
Yeah I bet their friends are doing things like bringing them food to help and their jobs are giving them extra time off or something.
Yes, that is generally part of grieving.
The calculus changes when everything from ambulances to children could be actual, literal bombs.
Nope. No you don’t get to go down that road. We dealt with that uncertainty in Iraq without causing a massive famine or using 2,000 pound bombs. They are no excuses for genocide, and certainly not victim blaming.
It sounds like you’re saying if Jihadists use ambulances and children then there’s no defense. Just lay down and die.
Sounds like you’re trying to lump every person in Gaza in with Hamas. Professional soldiers have procedures for those situations. Ones Israel isn’t using.
I’m not.
I’m very clearly saying that when you’re fighting a group who straps bombs to kids, you have to consider that even those appearing to be regular civilians might be a threat.
Oh but you are. Because we’ve done this. We know how to deal with those problems without committing a genocide. The only reason to answer charges of genocide with , “but the kids might have weapons!” Is to blame the victims.
The calculus changes when everything from ambulances to children could be actual, literal bombs.
That’s a really weird way to say, “I’ll kill any Palestinian that moves, even the cattle, because I can’t even bother viewing them as human beings”.
Would it be acceptable if someone shot an Israeli ambulance, saying, “well, you never know these days, these ambulances are full of IDF ready to attack!”?
Nope, and neither should the opposite.
Yeah an eye for an eye if you’re a barbarian. 30 eyes for each 1 is… something else.
And it’s not like the fascist Israeli settlers didn’t start their share of murder before Okt.7: Israel Escalates Genocidal Violence Against Palestinians In The West Bank - YouTube TMR Jul.8th 2023
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Israel is not fighting against Hamas. Israel is fighting against all Palestinians, of which only a tiny fraction is Hamas. Well or rather they are fightinf against Hamas, but they are slaughtering the other Palestinians.
Israel is past the need to defend itself. Now they are taking the opportunity to commit genocide and displace the Palestinians from Gaza.
What do you propose Israel do about all of the missiles being fired by Hamas?
What do you propose Israel do about all of the missiles being fired by Hamas?
Don’t they already have the Iron Dome? That btw lets missiles drop on “poor Palestinian areas” because their systems categorize them as “empty lands”?
What do you suggest they do? Aside from killing every man, woman and child, of course?
I suggest Israel root out Hamas. Then hold elections to create a Palestinian government that’s willing to negotiate with Israel for their own state
The iron dome also isn’t perfect and doesn’t change the intent. If I make my house bullet proof and you shoot it every day in the hopes of killing me at some point I have the right to get rid of you by some method surely?
To do “self defence”, all Israel had to do was guard its borders and have some diplomatic solution that didn’t completely dehumanize Palestinians, maybe policies that listen to expert opinions on these subjects and how this is causing extremism to double. They didn’t need to invade “in self defence”.
If I make my house bullet proof and you shoot it every day in the hopes of killing me at some point I have the right to get rid of you by some method surely?
Funny how that works both ways.
Alright so from your perspective it seems you expect Israel to do all the heavy lifting here. Just ignore the attacks and hope Hamas is willing to negotiate one day? Even though they make it clear they want to remove Israel
What should the Palestinians/Hamas be doing? Continuing with their current course of action until Israel decides to do something different?
Giving people rights and ending apartheid and reducing extremism is heavy lifting? As opposed to now???
But yes I expect the supremacist colonial landgrabbers to do the heavy lifting.
I propose Israel stop the weapons embargo on Gaza, allowing Gazans to arm themselves. The embargo obviously doesn’t work for keeping weapons from Hamas. It does, however, make the honest people of Gaza totally powerless to resist their dictators.
It does, however, make the honest people of Gaza totally powerless to resist their dictators.
Have you ever wondered what those people might have experienced that would lead them to hate Israel so much?
That’s a different point, isn’t it? The comment above seems to suggest that Hamas doesn’t have support from the vast majority of Palestinians. In reality, if they had weapons, it appears they might use them the exact same way Hamas did.
I was directly replying to that point.
