• Mossy Feathers (She/Her)@pawb.social
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    2 years ago

    Man, a lot of people here don’t understand how the music industry works. From the perspective of someone who’s been loosely following the music industry, what I’ve learned is that it doesn’t matter if Spotify gave up 2/3rds of their revenue, or 100% of it, the artists would still make fuck all.

    Why?

    The labels love taking their cuts and as a result, artists make very little. Instead of taking the blame for giving artists a <10% cut of the label’s revenue from their music (my understanding is that it’s pretty common for musicians to get <10%, sometimes <5% if you’re on a particularly shitty label), the labels are blaming platforms like Spotify.

    Now, I’m not saying that Spotify is blameless, however I think there’s a lot of misdirection from the labels going on. I don’t remember anyone complaining about pre-spotify services like Pandora Radio for not paying out enough when they were largely ad-supported, which is another reason I’m not totally buying the, “it’s cause it’s free” argument either.

    Fuck, remember Pandora?

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      2 years ago

      Labels are an outdated concept that needs to die. Now that you can find any music from just a quick search artists shouldn’t have to rely on them, at least not as heavily, for advertising.

      • GamingChairModel@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago

        There was a very, very brief moment from about 2005 to 2011 or so where there was money to be made directly by artists on iTunes or the other music stores where the tracks were like 99 cents each.

        But people stopped buying as soon as Spotify became popular, and now any artist that wants to release on Spotify without a label still doesn’t make much money.

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    2 years ago

    Honestly, Spotify is only half bad compared to the real scumbags of this industry, and that’s the “rights holders”.

    It’s not the artists who created the music I’m talking about. It’s the record companies taking the largest piece for themselves.

    They are the ones earning on other people’s talent and success.

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        2 years ago

        I’ll die on that hill. 90% of the artists I listen to, I found through spotify’s algorithms.

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          2 years ago

          Ok, but why not find a human that curates the kind of music you like? They are called DJs.

          I don’t understand why we need to get rid of human DJs that seems like the last job we need to replace.

          edit why do y’all think I am talking about radio DJs? You…. know there are wayyyyyyy more DJs out there than just radio DJs right?..…right?

          ….like y’all know mixes exist right? Like mixcloud or whatever?

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          2 years ago

          Yo. I can be a record label. Come hang out in my apartment while I pay the bills and BAM! I get all the royalties!

          Sounds like stealing with extra steps. Actually it sounds like just being rewarded for having money to begin with.

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            2 years ago

            Actually it sounds like just being rewarded for having money to begin with.

            That’s most of the economy.

  • onlinepersona@programming.dev
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    2 years ago

    For a company that has revolutionized the music industry and changed the way we listen to music, one would expect Spotify to be making a lot of money.

    How has spotify “revolutionized” the music industry? Are thy doing anything new? Streaming isn’t new, yearly reviews aren’t new, freemium isn’t new, discovery isn’t new… Is the revolution that it’s now a standard target for artists?

    • modcolocko@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 years ago

      Spotify literally changed the way people listen to music by being popular enough that the general way of listening changed from a purchase, listen forever model. To a listen to anything you want and never not have anything new, way of listening (but you don’t own anything).

      A song is no longer worth a purchase of a cd, or dollar at itunes. It’s worth the 3 minutes of listening that it gives you when Spotify recommends it to you.

      Obviously I’m biased. And also, yes, there were streaming services before Spotify, but nobody that mattered and with the influence of Spotify.

  • thesporkeffect@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    To determine if this company is actually a poor widdle guy or just trying to look like their hands are tied with respect to paying artists, look up how much Daniel Ek is worth, and then look up what he does with his money