Is this a totally crazy idea? Talk me down before I hurt myself.

  • redcalcium@lemmy.institute
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    6 months ago

    Should be totally doable, when I’m retired and all I do is playing games all day. Can still open a web browser from steam overlay to check emails and stuff.

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        6 months ago

        The core is immutable, but it comes with flatpak which writes to a writeable location so you can install and update applications independently of OS updates without having them wiped after an upgrade. You can also install and use tools like distrobox to give you container environments that you can install and change as much as you like as well.

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      6 months ago

      Not anymore according to Wikipedia:

      SteamOS, version 3.0. This new version is based upon Arch Linux with the KDE Plasma 5 desktop environment

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        6 months ago

        Iff all the apps you’d want are already containerized into the system used in steamos why not. As furzegulo pointed out, it’s immutable

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    6 months ago

    Not the hardest. Worst case, install Boxes from Discovery app and spin a VM of a different OS. Make it your “main” OS for apps that won’t work on SteamOS.

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    6 months ago

    I use it as daily driver. I have a JSAUX dock with ssd for home, I unplug and bring it with me to university and use it with a bluetooth folding keyboard and house I got for <50$.

    It does everything I need. I’m a CS Major and “Boxes” works well for any sandbox environment I need.

    If you’re super technical, some thing in SteamOS can limit you, like how system files are on their own partition that gets wiped every update. But it’s perfectly doable

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    6 months ago

    Well, AFAIK it’s impossible/very damn hard to print on steam OS, and anything that can’t be a flatpak or a container/appimage/binary… Is not going to stay.

    If you say “use the deck as main computer”, I think for the most part you will be fine, but when you’re not you’ll be in a world of pain

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        6 months ago

        Not all. Cups doesn’t seem to work in distro box and even if it does printer drivers won’t.

        Others like tailscale need (last time I checked) 3rd party scripts to even install, so possible but not trivial without research.

        For context, I use Bazzite for home/work/gaming and there are a few use cases I couldn’t make work without installing packages.

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          6 months ago

          Appreciate the info! I’ve been interested in immutable distros, but that would be a pretty big issue for my main PC.

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            6 months ago

            Just one thing, SteamOS is specially tricky for this as it doesn’t support layers.

            Bazzite is also immutable but thanks to the layers I got the main things fixed, and as it’s based on silverblue there are a lot more resources to check

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        6 months ago

        Looks like there has been some significant changes from 2022. But it’s arch based…and the expert install is the same. So I’m not sure what you mean. It’s just Linux?

        Either way, I’m glad valve put so much effort into Debain/Arch + Proton. Amazing what they can do + the community behind wine.

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          6 months ago

          They are technically both Arch based but outside of that they are fairly different.

          So maybe not totally different bit they are not close to being the same either

  • leopold@lemmy.kde.social
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    6 months ago

    No reason to use it outside of a Steam Deck IMO. Compared to other immutable distros, SteamOS makes things pretty difficult if the thing you’re trying to run isn’t on Steam, Flathub or AppImage. Can’t just layer. Have to set up stuff like Nix yourself. Distro doesn’t come with gcc/make/cmake, so good luck making building from source if you ever need to. It’s fine for a handheld PC, but as a power user I would never want it on my desktop. Not to mention the whole Gaming Mode/Big Picture GUI is just very limited and you have to constantly work around its limitations if you want to use it for anything other than Steam games.

    I had an instance of SteamOS making things unnecessarily difficult yesterday. I wanted to use a Pokemon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon HD texture pack for Citra. However, about a year ago there was a major rewrite of Citra’s texture pack code which broke a few older texture packs, including that one. The author recommended using Nightly 1880 at the latest for the texture pack to work correctly. However, last month, the Github repository for Citra was taken down and all of the old prebuilt binaries went down with it. Many mirrors of the repository exist, but they at best only offer the last nightly for download. On any normal Linux distro, this would be a trivial problem to solve. Clone one of the many mirrors of the Citra repository, rollback to whichever commit corresponds to Nightly 1880 and compile. Can easily be done in ten minutes. But on SteamOS, you can’t do that. What I had to do instead was going to old Citra Github repository through archive.org and somehow finding an archived download for the latest Linux build of Citra released before 1880. This took a while, but I was eventually able to find a download for Nightly 1816, which I deemed close enough. Great. Except it didn’t launch. Because it was linking to same shared objects SteamOS did not have.

    So I had to go on the Debian website and download deb files for Debian Buster that included the so files Citra wanted. I unpacked the debs into the Citra directory and created a shell script that simply launched Citra with LD_LIBRARY_PATH pointing to the libraries I’d downloaded. I had to to get at least a dozen libraries from Debian before Citra finally stopped complaining about missing so files and successfully launched. Then I had to reconfigure this second Citra build to match my preferences and transfer my Ultra Sun save file to it. I also had to change my Steam library entry for Ultra Sun to point to the shell script. Oh and I obviously also had to install the texture pack. And then I finally had the texture pack working. After hours of work. When it would’ve taken twenty minutes at worst on any other distro. Yeah, in retrospect, fuck SteamOS.

  • Stefano Prenna@lemmy.stefanoprenna.com
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    6 months ago

    So, I’ve been using my Steam Deck as my main driver for more than a year. While there are options to install software without having those removed when you update (steamos-btrfs, nix, distrobox), you can just boot another OS from an external drive.

    I have WinesapOS on a SD card so I can use SteamOS without restrictions (and there are other options like Bazzite that others have mentioned).

    So far, I have not found anything that was not possible on my machine, because, well, it’s a computer with an Arch distro on it!

    Something that I read elsewhere, not in this thread, is about limits when it comes to work with external peripherals. Now, I can tell you that I use an external Bluray player, printer, scanner, drawing tablet, floppy drive reader (to make images of floppies), azeron pad, programming esp32, work with sound with a Creative GC7, and I’m not sure I’m missing anything. My SteamOS is great!

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    6 months ago

    80% of my work is on websites, and the other 20% is in a text editor or terminal. As long as I could map my old keyboard shortcuts I don’t see why not.

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    6 months ago

    Try it, the worst thing that can happen is you waste a few hours, get mad, break your PC, and get a brain aneurysm

  • I did this for about a year on a Steam Deck after my desktop broke down, though with the caveat that I still had my Manjaro laptop as a fallback as well. Had to write some scripts to reinstall packages after updates (since system is supposed to be read-only by default) which wasn’t very fun, but it worked well enough for a while. Only reason I moved on was to get a better gaming rig for Baldur’s Gate 3.