• katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 months ago

    the people who troll or make fun of linux beginners are the same people who wonder every year why desktop linux isn’t more mainstream

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      5 months ago

      And 80% of these are on Lemmy, I mean put up a question or comment that how Linux is not helpful is simple tasks such as giving permissions to program without using command prompt , will get you downvotes/ you are idiot comments heavily.

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    5 months ago

    I trolled myself by “learning” that I could delete all files in a directory, including hidden files, with rm -rf ./*. The mistake being that I (more than once…) accidentally put a space between the . and /.

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      5 months ago

      Also it’s just wrong advice, since you explicitly need --no-preserve-root for it to work… /s

      Jokes aside, please don’t troll anyone with things, that can have severe consequences. Yes, they should have a backup. Yes, they should know how to restore from it. Yes, they should have tested it prior. Yes, you shouldn’t blindly trust people online.

      But even then: Assuming my backup works and I can easily revert the damage. Maybe I need to complete an assignment until tomorrow and just lost 1-2 hours because my PC was busy doing the restore? There’s always a high chance of collateral damage

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      Having moderated forums back in the day, I can answer to some of that motivation.

      First, some people are just bullies. A sense of tribalism forms around bullies, who feel the need to act out and repeat the abuses they have endured. Hazing stems from this, too. Cruelty masked as “you should know better,” advice. Given too late.

      Some have a smug sense of superiority, and want to keep it that way. Less smart people means they stay king of the mountain. Others are scared their own lack of knowledge will cripple them if they don’t keep the potential competition down. Insecurities drown out any sense of empathy.

      Some people hate themselves so they punish others in retaliation. Like, trying to erase past cringe by making others hurt to even the score.

      A few are sick of “the same fucking newbie questions again and again and again,” but still hang out in newbie forums for some reason.

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      Some people are really bad at empathy. They don’t actually, like, imagine the pain and confusion in the other person if they did unwittingly damage their computer. They’re thoughtless. That’s a lot of words to say “They’re kind of stupid.”

      And some people do imagine the pain of the victim, and do it anyway. Those people should probably be on a watch list before they start killing small animals or shooting up a school.

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    5 months ago

    I asked for help on the Discord server of LinuxServer.io and they were literally talking shit about me to each other while I was in the chat because I didn’t understand their utter garbage documentation for a Docker I was having trouble with, even with a CS degree.

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    Jokes on you I trolled myself by being stupid and not asking for help when installing on the crap old pc I have and fucked myself over by bricking it

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      Before you ask a question, you must read the 10 page essay on how to ask questions. Asking questions is serious business after all, we can’t have people doing it incorrectly.

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        Your sarcasm is on point but there are a limited number of people who can answer some questions. They get flooded and are answering questions on their own free time. So some people get left in the dust if they don’t follow the rules.

        It sucks but I don’t see a way around it.

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      My favorite thing in the world is when the top search result on Google leads to a post from someone telling me to use Google.

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      Thats often true though.

      In Linux community stuff at the beginning I was really annoying. You need to learn to search the internet first. Lemmy may be different because its free internet (unlike Reddit or Stack*) so duplicate questions may help.

      Especially in the GrapheneOS Discuss there are people asking the most basic questions, not getting that its Android and those things are the same anywhere.

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          I like to give them the keywords. But why should I be the working monkey for lazy people that makes no sense

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          This tends to be my issue. When things are brand new to you, you may not even know what to begin searching for.

          Even a link can help point someone in the right direction.

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    Yeah this is the is the biggest reason I dislike Linux forums in a broad sense. Snobby elitist pricks.

    Don’t even get me started on arch Linux forums… my favorite is when someone says is something like “this is super fucking simple you just follow this guide: [insert wiki link that is basically a scientific dissertation on the history of arch]

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      It’s the same on Lemmy. Linux people live in a fantasy world…it’s like ya I’ve done some things on Linux but is it the best OS for most people? Nah. Not even close.

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    Linux Support Communities are a trillion times more welcoming, kind and understanding of new people today than they were 10 and 20 years ago.

    I still am scared to ask questions, but at least when I finally have no choice and resign myself to asking a question… its generally answered kindly, and if its not answered directly I’m at least put in the right direction. And that helps me build my own knowledge base, and helps me solve future problems on my own.

    Unlike when I did my first dip into linux a couple decades ago where you’d be called some creative combination of Windows/Microsoft and a sexual slur and told to go the fuck back to windows if you are too stupid to have been born without the complete comprehensive understanding of the terminal.

    I hope the community continues to improve, and welcome newbies and their problems like it currently does, so we can all grow and thrive together.