Apologies for title spelling errors. Apparently the title box doesn’t arouse autocomplete or spell check.

Seriously. For my entire life I’ve been able to look at any random porn site and know I wasn’t going to see various things : children, rape, insest, scat, etc etc.

When the fuck did incest porn become acceptable? Let alone mainstream?

There’s not even an opinion to NOT see it. (but I’m given the option to not see gay porn)

Like. I don’t care that it exists. I’m not shaming anyone for being into it but

I DON’T WANT TO SEE IT ON MY FUCKING PORN LISTS

  • Drusas@kbin.social
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    5 months ago

    My guess is that it appeals to a sizable minority of people while at the same time not turning off the majority of people because they know it’s just actors who aren’t truly related.

    I prefer my porn not to have any story to it at all, but that doesn’t stop me from watching the stuff which hamfists a story into it. I just skip to what I want to see.

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      Yeah, I think it’s this. Scat porn, for comparison, turns off most people so having a bunch of it up on a main page is going to hurt traffic. I’m guessing there must have been some legal issue that turned all the incest porn into step incest porn, but regardless most people probably don’t care if a scene starts with someone calling the other person “step brother” or something. Some people probably actually prefer that. So the benefits outweigh the negatives for the sites.

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        I’m guessing there must have been some legal issue that turned all the incest porn into step incest porn

        I believe in some jurisdictions it’s illegal to depict nuclear incest in porn, even though it’s fictional.

        Also I would speculate that the actual fetish comes from the fact that a decent amount of people would have had a step-sibling added to their family during their adolescence, which could have influenced their fantasies and taboos. If you’re a 13 year old boy and suddenly there is a 14 year old girl living in your house that you aren’t blood-related to, it could easily lead to some weird fantasies popping into your head.

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          AFAIK, it’s not the legality per se that keeps the actual incest off the provider, but that credit card companies won’t allow their cards to be used to pay for such services.

          But I’m just a regular pervert on the internet. I’m only parroting what I read online.

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            I’m too afraid to google it, but I bet there’s a heavy metal band already using that name…

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      I guess this is why Cheating/NTR porn is also so regional in terms of popularity. Because how much it turns off others fluctuates and it lingers on the border.

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          Netorare, Cuckholdery. Basically an entire branch of porn where the plot has one man watch “his” woman be taken by another man. It’s overdone in some circles and completely absent in others which makes me think there’s some degree of turnoff associated with it that is cultural.

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    Well it isn’t incest which makes it taboo only on a surface level. Beyond that, it’s a quick setup to a story for young or young-looking actors as well as an easy, built-in explanation for someone to walk in on them and get an “exposed” element to their narrative.

    Basically it’s just cheap and convenient writing. Be disgusted if you want but even within their little narrative it’s not incest so you’re getting your feathers riled up over nothing.

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      yeah it seems like just a VERY quick way to say “the girl is cute and young-looking, typically petite, in a house/bedroom setting”.

      you can say all that, or “step”.

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        Exactly. It’s just narrative shorthand. I’m sure there are some people getting there jollies from the narrative side but those’ll be the ones who don’t have the impulse to turn the volume down when the Brattysis intro gets to the “You’re the best big brother…” part.

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          when the Brattysis intro gets to the “You’re the best big brother…” part.

          Well, we know what **your ** favorite site/studio/whatever is. Based on the name and intro line you provided I’m guessing their whole thing is straight sibling porn where the girl is supposed to be the younger sister and kind of a pain before they fuck? That’s pretty specific, but I guess everything is someone’s kink.

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            Honestly, man, I kinda wish it was my favorite. Annoyingly, it’s just been one of those intro cards that has got stuck in my head. You’re mostly on the money though. The girl isn’t always younger but the general principle is she’s giving poor browski a hard time for the fun of it before they bang by some narrative means. You say it’s specific but if you mute it and just watch shit unfold, it’s your standard sudden dom power fantasy. Pretty basic stuff, really. Not to mention, requires extremely little scripting for the studio so favorable both writing costs and all the sieve-brained starlets not having to memorize much.

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              See, I just ignore studio altogether, skip forward enough that it’s already to the action so I tend to miss intro cards and tend to pick out particular actresses and look up other stuff with them.

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                Makes sense. From havin terrible internet until very recently, leaving things to buffer was my only course of action.

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    Most vanilla kink

    From the view of the actors too - if you had to pick a kink to act in/start in, it would probably be this one. Not too extreme, not too niche, but spicy enough to attract attention. Doesn’t need extra props or locations, all you do is change the term you call each other by.

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    Usually the main difference between normal porn and “step-porn” is just the title of the video. Content stays exactly the same.

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        I assume most “normal” people do watch it anyway which is why it’s all over every porn site. If only people into that fetish watched it and it hurt traffic they wouldn’t plaster it all over every front page…

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            Wow it really must just not be a thing then? You should really get in touch with some porn sites and let them know that no one is interested in watching most of their content.

            Alternatively, there’s always the possibility that they develop the type of content their analytics tell them is popular, and that you and your porn friend’s preferences are less normal than you had assumed.

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    Part of what drives Porn, what makes one setting or situation more popular than another, is taboo. Having just enough of a sense of “naughtiness” in a situation that it makes it more exciting, without going so far as to be offensive to the senses and take the viewer out of it. A generally successful way to do that is to take a normal situation that people are familiar with, something that wasn’t sexy, and make it sexy and pornify it.

    As an example, imagine you’ve… ordered a pizza, or had some sort of workman come to repair something at your home. Pretty normal, right? But have you ever paid for that service with sex? Normal, relatable situation, made sexy. Now this is a cliché these days because it’s been done to death, but at it’s advent the “Pay for thing/get paid for thing with sex” trope wasn’t just new, it was Thrilling. It also stops short of presenting the impression of full on prostitution, the goods or services were not presented with the intent to buy sex, which makes it feel less… dirty, to the average viewer. It’s taboo, relatable, but not entirely repulsive.

    Now, the “Step” concept is the new hotness. Lots of us, maybe most of us, have step-family, so it’s widely relatable. Also we generally don’t seriously consider sex with step-family, making it taboo. Finally it always stops at STEP family, not blood relatives, so it’s arguably not really incest, meaning it’s not so broadly repulsive. It makes a condition that we can see ourselves in, it’s even more naughty than just sex, but it just manages to dodge the most objectionable subject that it’s so close to.

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    I think step porn is so popular because it basically establishes a relationship beforehand, even though it is familial. This gives our guy or whatever proxy for the audience they use a preexisting relationship (creates a taboo and and a reason why they know each other), proximity and opportunities for interaction, no need to go to a bar or whatever (makes the script easy to explain why they are forced together in a situation.

    I think it makes creating porn easier since it quickly explains why these two or more people are around each other in a lonely house or hotel room (ease of filming venue), gives them a preexisting relationship with maybe hidden desire (no wooing or any modern prerequisites before meeting a potential sexual partner), it’s a bit taboo but easily ignored by the majority of the audience, and finally an established easy premise to follow and write with a lot of variation to the formula.

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        I actually do. Like i don’t need a movie or a backstory or anything, but just two people fucking seems boring and leaves nothing to the imagination.