Interesting word choice. China wants to “dominate”, the US wants to “lead”.
You can’t say the quiet part out loud.
I mean, of course there’s loaded language in all this. Are you also surprised at the language and rhetoric used by Chinese government and media sources when they talk about the US?
I don’t tend to see that stuff, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
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We can’t let stopping climate change get in the way of capitalism!
That’s protectionism, not capitalism.
Tomato, tomato. The free market is a myth, there is no part of the economy that goes without manipulation. Anytime business owners can’t directly manipulate the market themselves they bribe governments to do it on their behalf.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that a pure free market exists.
Having a capitalist economy doesn’t mean that you have a pure free market anyway.
Although there are libertarians that would like to have a free market like that, every capitalist economy has regulations in place in an attempt to prevent monopolies and/or businesses having too much power in one area.
That’s no true Scotsman.
No, protectionism exists outside of capitalism and even somewhat goes against the idea of capitalism, especially the free market kind.
That’s theoretical capitalism, in practice there is no free market.
That’s no true Scotsman.
Bait or brain damage. Call it
also Biden 🤡
Trump tariffs were too small.
That’s right, Joe knows how to protect the interests of American oligarchs much better than that charlatan.
This is the top response on Twitter now.
I’m surprised they haven’t deleted it, but I guess that would be even more embarrassing since it’s already archived.
I assumed this one was satire, is that a real tweet?
As a hobbiest, I make things out of steel and aluminum. Can’t wait to pay more.
As a grammar and language hobbyist, I’m interested in your spelling of hobbiest. Shouldn’t such a word come up so often in your hobbyist communities that you know how to spell it by now?
Feels like someone living in Texas spelling it Texes.
Words aren’t real, we can spell them however we want. Don’t be weird.
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Romanes eunt domus. Et prescriptive grammarians can eunt the fuck domus, too.
cringe
So you agree words are real and spelling matters?
I just find it odd such a basic blatant spelling mistake was made while this situation is unfolding and being astroturfed to hell.
You wouldn’t think an astronomer would call themselves an astrologer by mistake – much higher chance someone selling fake pretty glass to tourists would say their crystals are good for astronomy.
Since we’re on the subject of spelling things out, I’m questioning the authenticity of the guy who spelled it hobbiest. He may have just made a spelling mistake, we all do it, but 1.) currently heavily astroturfed subject 2.) hobbyists use the word a lot.
being an insufferable prick and a conspiracy wingnut about people’s basic spelling mistakes seems like a really weird hobbie
All the astroturfing is pro tariff, while the genuine engagement is anti-tariff. Go shill somewhere else, glowy.
Thank you for taking interest in the spelling in my post. My autocorrect kept changing things and I must have failed to properly proofread. I do, in fact, know how to spell the word. As a human, I am prone to errors from time to time. I apologize for this.
Since grammar and language are your hobby, I would suggest you spend less time online, as correcting the rampant errors in language and grammar must consume a great deal of your time. I would also like to point out that there are many people online for whom English is a second language.
As a logic and math hobbyist, I’m wondering how you came to the following conclusions…
a) That they participate in an online community OR b) that speaking (in an offline community) would somehow help them to know how to spell the word
AND
c) That the word “hobbyist” comes up often in these communities
nice now the all the cartels will start wheeling and dealing cpus and evs woo woo…
Swiggity swooty the oil lobby is coming for your booty
Heezul Schneezul, the future is diesel.
Disease-al
Funds raised will be used to offset further increases in subsidies to the domestic oil industry
In all honesty they could use this tax and an extra oil tax to subsidise the shit out of solar and EVs
Yeah, except everyone has had it beaten into them - nobody fucks with gas prices.
Every news outlet in the country runs the same news segment practically daily - “Let’s complain about gas prices”. We’ve somehow made it the subject of basically nonstop discussion.
If people can afford to commute to office jobs in 5,000lb trucks the gas prices aren’t high enough.
I mean, there is a case for discussing gas prices since it’s the price of mobile energy for everything from tractors to trucking to electricity. The gas price, specifically crude oil price, used to be synonymous with energy prices so any increase in oil price would mean a major hit to cost-of-living increases.
It’s outdated as hell.
Every time someone brings up gas prices I’mma just be like: “you know where the cheapest gas prices are? Electricity.”
Well, we have targeted a few industries, particularly clean energy, electric vehicles, batteries, renewables, where we’re not trying to dominate the globe and be the only country in the world that supplies these goods.
Janet Yellen
I’m determined to ensure that america leads the world in them
Joe Biden
make up your mind ghouls
This is basically a self imposed embargo that will ensure that we are outside observers to a world that is rapidly transitioning to renewable energy.
It will also be part of financial handouts to underperforming US tech companies
A tariff on imported goods to USA doesn’t affect global market of other countries importing Chinese goods you fucking genius.
All those cars and solar panels that Chinese companies counted on selling in the US must go somewhere. Every other country in the world (excluding the EU, although to a lesser extent than the US) isn’t hell-bent on sanctioning China, their production will be just redirected elsewhere.
And since the US, biggest net importer in the world, just stopped… importing, there will be more goods sought after by less money, AKA more supply (old supply + goods that can’t profitably be sold in the US anymore) but less demand (since the US just passed these new tariffs) and as you know, this is gonna make prices fall, maybe not a drastic fall but still.
It reduces competition for Chinese goods, making them cheaper and more accessible to less rich countries.
America can’t compete with China and American corps cried for daddy.
The innovation will be bred any minute now
The free market in action.
The free market inaction
FTFY
Oh we could but then the executive class would have to forgo their 8th Yacht.
so u cant because the “executive class” (capitalist they are called capitalist) control everything, u theoretically COULD if u had a revolution but u CANT.
Man what a fucking idiot.
Trump can’t campaign so Biden’s doing his job for him.
Let’s get a tarrif on major grocery and supply chain vendors at home first.
Just what I need, a larger grocery bill
It’s ok… the consumer will ultimately pay that tariff.
Don’t worry about it! Some intrepid American entrepreneur will simply begin producing American EVs immediately.
If modern politics has taught us anything, all you need to do is drop-kick the first domino and the Free Market will do exactly what you want it to do every time with zero follow-up. Society is completely linear like that.
Lmao yeah that’s how tariffs work…
Steel I get. That’s an environmental issue since US creation is way more carbon friendly. However the rest makes no sense without an announcement in domestic investment that is pulled from currently used non-environmental budgets.
Pretty sure the steel tariff is a bad thing too. There are certain grades of steel that just aren’t produced in the US. People threw a fit over it when trump did the same thing.
This is helpful, thank you.
And did that money go directly into production?
Or did it pad some folks pockets?
Here’s some highlights from the sources I put in the original comment since you can’t be asked to open them…
Clay, New York: Funding will support the construction of the first two fabs of a planned four fab “megafab” focused on leading-edge DRAM chip production. Each fab will have 600,000 square feet of cleanrooms, totaling 2.4 million square feet of cleanroom space across the four facilities—the largest amount of cleanroom space ever announced in the United States and the size of nearly 40 football fields.
Boise, Idaho: Funding will support the development of a high-volume manufacturing (HVM) fab, with approximately 600,000 square feet of cleanroom space focused on the production of leading-edge DRAM chips. The fab would be co-located with the company’s existing, leading-edge R&D facility to improve efficiency across its R&D and manufacturing operations, reducing lags in technology transfer and cutting time-to-market for leading-edge memory products.
at least $40 million in dedicated CHIPS funding for training and workforce development to ensure local communities have access to the jobs of the future.
the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) through its Loan Programs Office (LPO) today announced the closing of a $362 million loan to CelLink Corporation (CelLink) to help finance the construction of a domestic manufacturing facility that will produce components essential to electric vehicle (EV) assembly. Located in Georgetown, Texas, the facility will develop lighter and more efficient flexible circuit wiring harnesses—sets of wires and related equipment that relay information and carry electricity throughout vehicles. Once fully operational, the facility is expected to produce enough wiring harnesses to support the manufacture of approximately 2.7 million EVs per year and create 165 construction jobs and more than 1,200 permanent jobs.
The official source for the solar for all does have a broken link which is supposed to direct you here where it explain each of the 60 grants that were issued.
To awnser your question, production.
Located in texas isnt likely to sit well with baron von abbott and his henchmen
It’s cool how you just take them at their word.
But my point is that none of this is being done efficiently. Instead, middlemen siphon money from the project to pad their pockets and stretch out the timelines for completion. I won’t be surprised if some of these projects go over budget, over time, or need additional funding.
Wake me up when these projects complete. Then we can look at how much they really cost and how long it really took and how much they really produce.
Love how you slide them goalposts around
The money does not go directly to production, that’s the goal post. It goes through a dozen people’s hands before the ground is ever broken on one of these projects, and every one of those hands takes their cut to pad their pockets. That was my point.
yes
Wait we gave the Auto industry money for EVs and 50k SUVs were the result? Holy shit, that’s right up there with giving 4 billion to the telecoms for no actual network expansion.
That’s… That’s not how any of this works.
F. I’m trying to buy solar panels right now and China has some good ones.
