I just fucking can’t with windows anymore. I’d preach about it but I imagine you’ve heard it all. I have minimal computer expertise.

I use my PC mainly for streaming, downloading torrent files who’s copyright you don’t need to worry about, and light gaming. Usually just messing with New Vegas mods.

If someone knows of a good YouTube channel or guide or something written for andelder millennial caveman I would be grateful.

Edit: after having been recommended mint OS and giving it a quick Google, I got this! I haven’t fucked with anything linux scince the early aughts. And holy shit has that come a ways. Guess I remembered back and got a little intimidated. Mint is downloading now. As a small f.u. I booted up edge to do it. Ty you beautiful people!

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      While I love Bazzite and have been using it as my primary OS on my only computer which is a Steam Deck, I’m not sure I can agree that a non-tinkerer should go with it. I’d probably follow along the Linux Mint train honestly. It’s an honest project with their heart in the right place and makes usability a breeze and with a wider community than rpm-ostree based Fedora it’s probably gonna be more minor issues and annoyances in the long run.

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    Yeah, I’d say ideally you should be able to run mint and just figure out what you need to do with minimal difficulty.

    My partner started using mint recently and the two biggest annoyances for her are having to enter her password all the time to update anything, and minor windowing differences, especially going in and out of fullscreen games. I think both of those are just a matter of getting used to how it’s done differently outside of windows.

    IMO the thing that could use some attention is their package manager. There are several warnings and failures that I think have been unnecessary.

    ex 1. Almost every update will ask if she’s sure she wants to resolve some package conflict in some default way. This is not a question a normal user is equipped to answer, and only makes the user uneasy about what’s happening.

    ex 2. When she initially installed, the welcome wizard had her run a speed test to rank her repo sources, and she picked a nearby university that seemed like a good choice. Then a few days ago at random, it became inaccessible I guess, and now her package update fails to update Firefox specifically. I need to help her sort that out, haven’t had time.

    These are the kinds of errors I expect to see on arch occasionally, but on mint I feel like it should always figure out what the best option is for the user and just do it. If it needs to let the user know it did something, fine, but don’t present it ominously. Just put the system in a good state so that it’ll keep working, that’s all a normal mint user wants you to do.

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      In the update settings she can reset her apt sources back to “default”. It’s not too hard and there’s a gui throughout the process (from memory).

      The package conflicts is an interesting one, if you have the time to post one of these on lemmy I’m sure someone will suggest a fix. It’s probably a apt install --fix-broken or something simple (hopefully) but I’m sure we could work it out.

      Totally agree that these are annoying issues though. See if you can use Nala, it’s a TUI front end for Apt and it’s got some nice user changes like if you run upgrade it updates and upgrades. It also has a fetch feature which finds nearby sources, so you’re always downloading from the closest/fastest source.

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    explainingcomputers on youtube.

    But really he just shows how there’s nothing to it these days.
    Probably easier than a windows install.
    Especially if you try to force your brain to read the windows user agreement - I tried to do a micrsoft virtual machine install recently, and got stuck at the EUA. My mouse just refused to click yes.

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      The mention of the EULA brought back bad memories.

      That was not a joke. I’m the guy that reads the Terms of Service and especially the Privacy Policy. I’m not a lawyer, but the more of these you read, the easier it gets to weed out the good ones from the standard (read: terrible) ones, and the absolutely monstrous ones. The Windows EULA is among the worst ones I’ve read (though I admittedly did a skim read of that one). As I was writing this, I decided to actually read the EULA and found a grammatical error in it lol.

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    I’ve found Ubuntu and steam to just work with very little need to ever open the terminal (aside from setting up mic noise canceling w/ speakers). Most stuff that you install via terminal has its own guide. GPT / stack overflow can fill in most other gaps.

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    Can’t recommend channels or guides of the top of my head, but maybe search Linux Mint beginner guide or something. Linux Mint is recommended everywhere for people who are new to Linux and should have plenty of guides and answers

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    Yeah just boot it up and fuck around. You’ll eventually want to do something that isn’t obviously doable, and then you’ll look it up. A series of rabbit holes later and you’ll have learned a bunch of stuff. Maybe not the thing you originally wanted to, but some other stuff!

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    Saw the edits and I would like to congratulate you on the start of your journey.

    All of the stuff you mentioned works very well - OBS is native, (and if you miss the performance of ShadowPlay, somebody made a replacement!
    qBittorrent is native (and IMO the best) and the vast majority of games work on Linux now!(ProtonDB is a great resource for seeing what works and what does, and it even has a profile feature where you can plug in your Steam account username so it can automatically show you what’s compatible!)
    Mods are slightly finicky, but SteamTinkerLaunch will likely be able to solve all your problems, and r/linux_gaming has numerous discussions and workarounds, including this very recent and relevant one!

    Have fun, and try not to get caught up in distrohopping!

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    Quick tip to add to all the other advice: if Linux give you a warning, please read it carefully. Its not windows where you can safely blow through warnings. Otherwise, use it and enjoy!

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    You learn by using it.

    Which means you want to do something on Linux. You don’t know how to do it, then you ask or search for the answer and then you know.

    Just be patient and it will come naturally.

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      Yeah, just jump in.

      To get started it is best to keep Windows around, then if you need to get something done urgently you can go back to what you know then figure out how to do it in Linux later. Dual-booting is probably the best option if you are gaming as GPU passthrough can be difficult to get great performance. That is the approach I took a long time ago and then at some point I realized that I hadn’t booted into Windows for months and just deleted the partition.

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    I have minimal computer expertise.

    This is the source of your problem. Unless you learn more about computers and how to use them, you’re guaranteed to have more problems on Linux than you’ve had on Windows.

    The majority of the Windows gripes this community complains about are unlikely to ever be encountered by people with minimal expertise. Windows is fantastic as a layperson’s operating system (and many Linux distros are, as well), so your problems are probably user-caused.

    This might be cliche, but the For Dummy’s books by Wiley were how I started learning about both Windows and Linux when I was a teenager. In fact, they were how I learned that Linux existed and sparked a curiosity in IT that is culminating in my graduation with an IT degree in July.

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      I think it’s easier to fix issues on Linux than Windows at least. It’s not as obscured by Settings, Control Panel, Advanced Settings, Properties, and Registry in the worst case

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        No problems that a person with “minimal computer expertise” has are likely to require editing the registry, and if they struggle with the Settings app in Windows, they will be completely befuddled by the vast array of configuration files they will have to search through for making changes on Linux.

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            Yeah, Microsoft is always trying to monetize things that shouldn’t be monetized. Linux won’t necessarily be easier, but it definitely won’t force you to watch ads in your application menu.

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    Hey, others have already replied to a lot of things and you’ve already downloaded Mint (which is what I would have recommended also), so I would like to point out some things I always tell newcomers and some specific things for what you said.

    First of all: Linux is not Windows is the hardest lesson to learn, there are a lot of things you’re used to doing one way, but that doesn’t make that way correct. The main example is installing software, looking on the internet and downloading a binary from a website is NOT how you do it, the example I always give is that of a smartphone, it’s just as ridiculous to do in Linux than on a smartphone and for the same reasons. Instead use the package manager of your distro, that should work like the play/app store (except it’s free), and if something is not there maybe you can add a repository to it, or maybe the program doesn’t exist on Linux, only as a last resource should you do it manually.

    Partitions and drives: Linux doesn’t have the concept of a C: or D: drives, instead drives/partitions are mounted onto regular folders, so navigating through them is seamless. This means that if for example you were t mount the folder that contains all of your personal user data (/home) into a different partition from the root of the system (i.e /), you could format and change the system entirely without losing any personal data. This is very useful because it’s very likely you will poke something and break stuff, with much freedom comes much power to break things, so being able to reinstall your system without worrying about your personal data is a good thing.

    Drivers: mostly you shouldn’t worry about drivers on Linux, unless your GPU is Nvidia, if so you should worry about drivers a lot. Nvidia’s work best with the proprietary nvidia driver (instead of the default open nouveau driver), but the fact that the driver is proprietary makes it a pain in the ass to deal. You should 100% use it since you’re gaming, but you should steer away from distributions that use Wayland (nevermind what this is for now) instead of X11 (Mint so far uses X11). If you have a Radeon you shouldn’t worry about this.

    I use my PC mainly for streaming

    Be careful, afaik not all streaming software/sites are compatible with Linux. But that’s not a world I dabbled much, I know OBS works excellently, but other than that don’t know much.

    downloading torrent files who’s copyright you don’t need to worry about

    We all have torrent downloaders, for our Linux iso which are distributed via torrent of course

    and light gaming. Usually just messing with New Vegas mods.

    Iirc new Vegas is not on the supported list on steam, so you need to go to settings and enable Proton compatibility for all titles. I’ve never put mods so not sure how to do that, but you might need to read something before because the game is being run through a compatibility layer, so the files are not exactly where you would expect, and if you need to run a binary to find those files it needs to be in the same profile as new Vegas (each game creates their own profile based on steam ID, and each profile is in a different folder). Other than that New Vegas works perfectly on Linux, I’ve played it a long time ago, and now with the TV show I’ve started again.

    Last but not least: Welcome!

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      Proton is a godsend. Some games can be a little unstable, but I’ve yet to find one that doesn’t work at all. Even was able to install and mod a game from 2000. For what doesn’t work on Proton, Lutris can hopefully handle. Takes a little doing sometimes but I got Battlenet/WoW working almost prefectly with CurseForge.

      Nvidia drivers are a huge pain in the ass, though, and haven’t played nice with Wayland in my experience.

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        There are games that don’t work with Proton, but at this stage is 99% games that are actively trying not to work with Proton, e.g. DRM infested games.

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      Excellent reply!

      I just want to add that partitioning your drives is not backups and can never replace backups. It just increases the likelihood of making it easier to fix should you fuck something up with your install.

      Also, if OP means “watching streaming services” and by “streaming”, there should be little to no setup. Mainly the browser might ask you to enable DRM for the service to work.

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      Piggyback on to this excellent comment to elaborate on modding New Vegas. Everything except NVR works great! I’d recommend using this to install MO2

      4GB patcher has a Linux specific version on the Nexus Mods page.

      You can run most tools like the BSA decompressor or the TTW installer using Protontricks.

      xLODGen can be added as a tool to MO2 and just works.