US transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg on Monday said human drivers must pay attention at all times after videos emerged of people wearing what appeared to be Apple’s recently released Vision Pro headset while driving Teslas.

Buttigieg responded on Twitter/X to a video that had more than 24m views of a Tesla driver who appeared to be gesturing with his hands to manipulate a virtual reality field.

Despite their names, Tesla’s assisted driving features – Autopilot, Enhanced Autopilot and Full Self-Driving – do not mean the vehicles are fully autonomous, Buttigieg said Monday on social media.

“Reminder – ALL advanced driver assistance systems available today require the human driver to be in control and fully engaged in the driving task at all times,” Buttigieg said.

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    There’s no way that isn’t satire or similar commentary. Problem is I suspect way too many people are too dumb to get it. People who don’t realize it’s a faked scenario and are dumb enough to try it.

    Edit: Jesus Christ it’s fake. Have you downvoters even seen the video? Guy gets or of the car and is beep booping around? That motherfucker would be blind and couldn’t walk around without falling. If he was in pass thru he’d be vommiting because there’s no faster way to make yourself sick. The video isn’t even possible without being staged.

    The way people go on about critical thinking, I really expected you all to be a lot more savvy about things like this.

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      If he was in pass thru he’d be vommiting because there’s no faster way to make yourself sick.

      The issue I have with your comment is this. You’re asserting that the experience you had with nausea and VR is the experience everyone has or will have with nausea and VR.

      Some people can’t read a book in the car without getting motion sickness. Some people can read hundreds. Some can read a few pages.

      Some people can read a book but not play a video game. Some people have the opposite problem.

      There’s no way this was “fake” maybe staged, but this person was clearly in the driver’s seat driving down a public 4-lane highway. Staged video or not, that’s dangerous.

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        If you can find one person who has used pass-through while walking around for like 15 minutes and hasn’t gotten sick, you’ve found one more person than me. I’ve never heard anyone mention pass-thru that didn’t immediately follow up that it made them extremely sick.

        I’m not a person prone to motion sickness. I’m on boats all the time. I drive hundreds of miles at a stretch without a problem. I started feeling queasy in pass-thru within about 5 minutes. But I stuck with it and within 20 minutes I was on the verge of vomiting. This is not a subtle thing or something that only affects those with a weak constitution.

        So I don’t know. Maybe there are folks out there who are completely unaffected by it.

        Then there is the claim someone made that a user experience video showed that the headset just shut down at high speeds and couldn’t even be used on a train. I can’t verify that quickly with Google.

        I’m not sure where your line is between “fake” and “staged” but if they are only putting the headset on for the purpose of the video and they don’t actually drive around that way, I’m calling that fake. Because they aren’t actually using the headset except to draw attention to the fact that they are wearing the headset. People aren’t actually doing this. They created a fake controversy.

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      I don’t understand what you mean by “faked scenario”. This person is definitely driving and they definitely have the headset on. What do you mean is “faked” about this? Can you clarify?

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        I’ve clarified in other responses. “Faked” in that it was staged. The dude doesn’t actually drive around wearing a VR headset except, you know, just long enough to film it to present the ridiculous idea that someone might do this. I don’t have the time or energy to go in depth on every single response that says [DOUBT] but you can get a sense of my thought process and I guess either agree or not.

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      The new headsets show you the world around you and add an interface layer, like a HUD except the whole thing is on screen. You can walk around and still see in front of you, while your email interface floats off to the left. You interact with the interface through eye and hand motions.

      I haven’t used it, but that’s what they claim it can do. It would not be impossible to do the things people are doing in the video.

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        Existing headsets also do this (not with integrated email but that’s not the point). I know because trying it walking around my house made me the sickest I’ve ever been using VR. It shocks me the number of people who insist this is real and either haven’t seen the video or haven’t used VR.

        This was staged. Will some idiots do it for real? Probably, if they can (sometime else said apple headsets shut down while in motion, so that would be another reason this was staged).

        But the number of people downvoting me for saying the video everyone is talking about is faked honestly has me flummoxed. It’s fucking obviously fake, just like the tide pod challenge.

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      If I understand those headsets correctly it shuts down if it detects movement. Either walking, driving etc. The review I was watching a dude couldn’t use it in a subway. So there is no way this dude is using it while driving down the road. But still obstructs your vision too much.

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        That’s great if there’s a train that goes where you need to go. For most people in the US that happens approximately never.

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          If only something could be done about it but it seems for some reason the laws of physics don’t allow trains in north America

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              That’s why the first intercontinental travel was trains. Over distance trains a substantially more efficient than car because of rolling resistance and differentials.

              That’s why I say the laws of physics don’t apply because we do the objectively worse thing because the government hates building infrastructure.

              The US for instance is about the same size as China yet China has lots of rail because the government will focus on infrastructure.

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                Yes, trains are great for long distances. Where they suck is trying to get people from point to point in a sprawling city designed around the assumption that everyone has a car. Cities are so spread out that getting within walking distance of most destinations by train would require an unreasonably large rail system.

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                  Let’s be honest, cars suck at that too and that’s why we’re perpetually dealing with traffic and widening roads.

                  But let’s take Phoenix AZ, the premium suburb sprawl. The light rail is pretty damn good and with a bike it’s pretty painless evern if you need to get a mile or two from the light rail.

                  The main issue with using bikes like this is all the big ass cars and drivers who will not share the road. If we had dedicated bike infrastructure leading to rail it would work just fine even with suburban sprawl.

                  I know this because I did this on the light rail in Phoenix.

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      Realization might only last for about a millisecond or two.

      At some point, doctors are gonna tell a guy, “your face is already irreparably damaged by these AR devices in your sniff… just as an experiment, why not improve the enhancements surgically?” And that’s how cyberpunk 2077 gets on the rails.

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      Yeah and what would you do if the device malfunctions or runs put of battery? You’d literally be blind.

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          Yeah, sure. You just “take it off” while driving a +2000kg metal block that’s circulating at 40 to 160km/h. It’s totally fine to lose control over your friggin eyes while operating a machine like that.

          I’m sorry but you’re either a troll or just very dumb.