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Sandro Linux@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

Joe Biden wants more people to start living in empty offices

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Joe Biden wants more people to start living in empty offices

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Sandro Linux@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago
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The White House has come up with a plan to encourage developers to turn unwanted office space into apartments.
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  • andallthat@lemmy.world
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    I like how this is finally acknowledging WFH as something that is here to stay but I’m not sure I understand the connection with the housing crisis. From the article:

    New York’s famous Flatiron Building will soon be converted from empty offices into luxury residences

    Luxury apartments in premium locations is the first thing I would think of too if I were a developer, but their target buyers don’t sound like the sort of people who currently suffer from the housing crisis. But maybe I’m wrong and there will also be developers converting less prestigious office space into affordable housing…

    The other thing I don’t get is this: I don’t know Manhattan but I did work in some (I assume) similar business hubs in the middle of overpriced cities and I wonder: are many people going to want to live in expensive converted office spaces if they don’t work near there any longer? I mean if they were given the chance to WFH from anywhere would they still choose Manhattan? Honest question and maybe the answer is yes, because of the restaurants, culture, good schools or whatever… I would personally make different life choices if I could work completely remote, though.

    • David_Eight@lemmy.world
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      uxury apartments in premium locations is the first thing I would think of too if I were a developer, but their target buyers don’t sound like the sort of people who currently suffer from the housing crisis.

      It’ll have a domino effect, more apartments in Manhattan means less people in Brooklyn, Queens, etc. meaning prices go down in the latter boroughs. I live in Jersey City across the Hudson from Manhattan and a large part of the residents here are just people who can’t afford to live in Manhattan.

      are many people going to want to live in expensive converted office spaces if they don’t work near there any longer?

      Yes, I used to live in a converted office building in Newark NJ (not far from Manhattan) and really loved it. And yes people will always want to live in NYC and especially Manhattan. Many people, myself included simply prefer living in cities. I’ve also looked for apartments in Manhattan and it’s completely different than anywhere else.

      • bitwolf@lemmy.one
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        I remember watching the SOHO lofts get built sitting in 78e traffic towards Hoboken every morning.

        It seemed to me as if it was an old industrial revolution styled office building or warehouse being converted into apartments.

        I hope to see more of that in the future

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    There are 16,000,000 empty homes and 500,000 homeless. Office buildings aren’t going to be solving any real problem other than the people who own the building being shit out of luck

    • Destraight@lemm.ee
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      Where did you get those numbers from? Where is your source?

      • Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world
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        https://www.gao.gov/homelessness#:~:text=Issue Summary,factors like higher rental prices.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/03/business/economy/us-homeless-population-count.html

        https://endhomelessness.org/homelessness-in-america/homelessness-statistics/state-of-homelessness/

        https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/homeless-population-by-state

        https://www.security.org/resources/homeless-statistics/#:~:text=582%2C462 individuals are experiencing homelessness,experiencing chronic patterns of homelessness.

        https://todayshomeowner.com/general/guides/national-homeless-facts-and-statistics/#:~:text=Key Homelessness Statistics and Facts for 2023,-Globally%2C 1.6 billion&text=In America%2C 582%2C462 individuals are,complete census conducted in 2020.


        www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/report-how-many-homes-are-sitting-empty-in-your-state/amp/

        www.forbes.com/sites/brendarichardson/2022/03/07/16-million-homes-lie-empty-and-these-states-are-the-vacancy-hot-spots/amp/

        https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-vacant-homes-are-there-in-the-us/#:~:text=According to the Census Bureau,vacant homes nationwide in 2022.

        https://www.nar.realtor/magazine/real-estate-news/16-million-homes-vacant-in-us

        https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/05/vacant-seasonal-housing.html

        • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
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          There’s no kill like overkill lmao

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