• BolexForSoup@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    I feel like you’re not allowing two statements to be true.

    1. Assange is being doggedly pursued by the US for leaking state secrets. No I do not think he deserves to be punished for information he released like with Afghanistan. I think we are better for it and clearly this is the US making an example of him.

    2. I also take umbrage with any attempts to make him out to be a good person or in any way virtuous, which is what the comment I responded to did. He isn’t. He had my support when he was standing for transparency, and he lost it when it became clear he saw leaks as a tool for his political preferences and friends.

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      9 months ago

      I also take umbrage with any attempts to make him out to be a good person or in any way virtuous, which is what the comment I responded to did.

      Did we read the same comment? They literally called him a scumbag. 🙄

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        9 months ago

        “A bit of a scumbag” dilutes the fact that he failed at the very mission people praise him for. I am happy to admit that I am being too generous in my initial reading of their comment. I do not want to get bogged down in that.

        The point is that Assange was a useful tool for a certain brand of politics and certain parties. We all need to recognize that.

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                9 months ago

                Unfortunately, what we actually learned is that WikiLeaks existed for him to help those he politically agrees with.

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                  9 months ago

                  Interesting assertion. Also irrelevant, because journalism doesn’t have to be neutral. Plenty of journalists have an agenda, in fact I’d argue most of them do and the idea of impartial journalism is something some journalists made up to promote their own agendas.

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                    9 months ago

                    I didn’t say journalists had to be neutral. I never used the word neutral. Objectivity is a myth and impossible to obtain.

                    I’m saying these journalists didn’t want to work for a flagrantly partisan organization
                    that lied about its commitment to transparency.

                    If you want to be a mouthpiece for Putin and conservative talking points, then you need to not pretend you’re evenhanded and egalitarian with your leaks and publication.