Sorry… you’re saying a baby feels trauma and shame when it has its picture taken and that leads to psychological problems as an adult and creates more trauma when you show that photo to their partner?
Also, virtually every new parent has photos of their baby naked on their phone. And it’s legal. I have no idea why you don’t think it would be. A nude picture of your own baby is not child porn. No one has ever been put on a sex offender list for having a picture of their child just after it exited the womb on their phone. What a silly thing to say.
you’re saying a baby feels trauma and shame when it has its picture taken and that leads to psychological problems as an adult and creates more trauma when you show that photo to their partner?
You’re being willfully obtuse. The trauma and shame comes from the picture being displayed for the parents amusement to potential romantic partners the first time they come over, presumably in their early teens.
virtually every new parent has photos of their baby naked on their phone.
Most I’ve seen are completely swaddled and only their little faces are visible.
And it’s legal.
Where did you get your law degree?
I have no idea why you don’t think it would be. A nude picture of your own baby is not child porn.
I mean, I personally agree with that.
No one has ever been put on a sex offender list for having a picture of their child just after it exited the womb on their phone.
Crazier shit has happened and we’re not talking about gross little bloody newborns fresh out of the box. In every baby pic I’ve ever seen (and in the context of this comic); they’re bath pics, specifically ones with their junk in it! It’s weird, just place some bubbles or a wash cloth strategically or something it’s not that difficult fuck.
Was the focal point of the photo on the child’s genitalia or pubic area?
“It seemed to be.”
“Was the child who is depicted in an unnatural pose, or in inappropriate attire, given the age of the child?”
“They were naked.”
“Was the child nude or fully or partially clothed?”
“Completely nude your honor.”
That’s how quickly that can be used against you and I for one don’t have that kind of faith in our legal system.
Look, it’s your kid you do whatever you want, we could argue back and forth all day, I’m sure you’re a decent parent and handle things as appropriately as possible but for anyone else reading this maybe give some consideration to pictures you take of your vulnerable kids and what purpose those pictures serve, some strategic bubbles or a cloth make the picture 100% innocent and it becomes a non-issue.
can you provide evidence that has ever happened to any parent?
How could I even find that evidence? I don’t have access to court records re custody battles and divorces or therapy notes from every doctor out there. I showed you links indicating that even unintended childhood trauma lingers into adulthood but you dispute showing embarrassing images could possibly be humiliating or that any parent could possible make a bad decision regarding them.
seem to think you can make any claim you like without evidence
I never claimed it happened, I claimed it could be bad which is self evident to me but apparently not everyone. My hypothetical illustrated how easily innocent actions could be misconstrued, nothing more.
get indignant about it when you aren’t automatically believed.
My only point here is that maybe taking pictures of your naked children and parading them around when their first boy/girlfriends start coming over (the thing you said it was for) maybe isn’t the best idea and could be saved for a time later, when they’re ready to show people. If anyone is indignant it’s someone who feels their parenting skills are being questioned.
everyone knows that naked baby pictures are used to torture children in front of their serious romantic partners brought home for the first time. This has not happened in my 14-year-old daughter’s life yet
What age did you start meeting your partners parents? Gonna be any time now isn’t it?
I think his point is that he’s the exception and he would be very upset if he got thrown in with all the pedo’s.
I agree with what you said, such a strange hill to die on. He wont accept any variation like covering just their genitals or making them off camera. Its like its very important he has baby dicks and vaginas saved on his computer and phone.
And of course since he would never hurt his own children (said every parent who inadvertently abuses their children), we shouldn’t make him adhere to the rules the rest of us do.
All hail king flying squid I guess. I’m starting to realize that quantity of posts does not equal quality of character.
Ah, so you ignored virtually every single other post I made since then where I clarified and just focused on that one. I see. Well yes, that does make it easier to make such silly criticisms, doesn’t it?
It would be legal on Google Drive too. I challenge you to find me one example of a parent getting in legal trouble for having a photo of their baby naked on either their phone or on Google Drive.
Legal trouble is not the only kind of trouble.
I just didn’t link a news article because I thought it was widespread enough.
Try “guy loses google account false positive” on Google Search
It will still cause you problems if you are reliant on it though.
I am also trying to slowly get enough alternatives that random Google decisions don’t cause me misery, but…
Oh yeah, I would never rely on it for plenty of other reasons. I do back up some photos to it, but it’s one of multiple backups. I look at it as a redundancy.
Sorry… you’re saying a baby feels trauma and shame when it has its picture taken and that leads to psychological problems as an adult and creates more trauma when you show that photo to their partner?
Also, virtually every new parent has photos of their baby naked on their phone. And it’s legal. I have no idea why you don’t think it would be. A nude picture of your own baby is not child porn. No one has ever been put on a sex offender list for having a picture of their child just after it exited the womb on their phone. What a silly thing to say.
You’re being willfully obtuse. The trauma and shame comes from the picture being displayed for the parents amusement to potential romantic partners the first time they come over, presumably in their early teens.
Most I’ve seen are completely swaddled and only their little faces are visible.
Where did you get your law degree?
I mean, I personally agree with that.
Crazier shit has happened and we’re not talking about gross little bloody newborns fresh out of the box. In every baby pic I’ve ever seen (and in the context of this comic); they’re bath pics, specifically ones with their junk in it! It’s weird, just place some bubbles or a wash cloth strategically or something it’s not that difficult fuck.
I don’t need a law degree. Unlike you, I have evidence:
https://legal-info.lawyers.com/family-law/child-abuse-and-neglect/baby-pictures-or-child-pornography.html
Evidence?
“It seemed to be.”
“They were naked.”
“Completely nude your honor.”
That’s how quickly that can be used against you and I for one don’t have that kind of faith in our legal system.
Look, it’s your kid you do whatever you want, we could argue back and forth all day, I’m sure you’re a decent parent and handle things as appropriately as possible but for anyone else reading this maybe give some consideration to pictures you take of your vulnerable kids and what purpose those pictures serve, some strategic bubbles or a cloth make the picture 100% innocent and it becomes a non-issue.
Much like the trauma claim, can you provide evidence that has ever happened to any parent?
You seem to think you can make any claim you like without evidence and then get indignant about it when you aren’t automatically believed.
How could I even find that evidence? I don’t have access to court records re custody battles and divorces or therapy notes from every doctor out there. I showed you links indicating that even unintended childhood trauma lingers into adulthood but you dispute showing embarrassing images could possibly be humiliating or that any parent could possible make a bad decision regarding them.
I never claimed it happened, I claimed it could be bad which is self evident to me but apparently not everyone. My hypothetical illustrated how easily innocent actions could be misconstrued, nothing more.
My only point here is that maybe taking pictures of your naked children and parading them around when their first boy/girlfriends start coming over (the thing you said it was for) maybe isn’t the best idea and could be saved for a time later, when they’re ready to show people. If anyone is indignant it’s someone who feels their parenting skills are being questioned.
I absolutely did not say that is what it is for. I have said over and over again that I am talking about an adult child with a significant other.
If you’re going to berate me, at least don’t lie about what I said.
What age did you start meeting your partners parents? Gonna be any time now isn’t it?
I think his point is that he’s the exception and he would be very upset if he got thrown in with all the pedo’s.
I agree with what you said, such a strange hill to die on. He wont accept any variation like covering just their genitals or making them off camera. Its like its very important he has baby dicks and vaginas saved on his computer and phone.
And of course since he would never hurt his own children (said every parent who inadvertently abuses their children), we shouldn’t make him adhere to the rules the rest of us do.
All hail king flying squid I guess. I’m starting to realize that quantity of posts does not equal quality of character.
P.s. tell him to stop Doxxing himself so much.
Ah, so you ignored virtually every single other post I made since then where I clarified and just focused on that one. I see. Well yes, that does make it easier to make such silly criticisms, doesn’t it?
Let’s just hope you don’t rely on Google Drive
It would be legal on Google Drive too. I challenge you to find me one example of a parent getting in legal trouble for having a photo of their baby naked on either their phone or on Google Drive.
Legal trouble is not the only kind of trouble.
I just didn’t link a news article because I thought it was widespread enough.
Try “guy loses google account false positive” on Google Search
Google fucking up its detection algorithm is kind of a different issue though, isn’t it?
It will still cause you problems if you are reliant on it though.
I am also trying to slowly get enough alternatives that random Google decisions don’t cause me misery, but…
Oh yeah, I would never rely on it for plenty of other reasons. I do back up some photos to it, but it’s one of multiple backups. I look at it as a redundancy.
“It’s not just drive”, is my point.
If you mean don’t trust Google for anything, I agree with that too. Otherwise, sorry, I guess I don’t understand your point.