I undertook a sizeable upgrade today, bringing a skylake era build into the 2020s with a 13th gen. All core components- memory, motherboard, GPU, everything must go… except the drives. We were nervous, my friend really felt we should reinstall. There was debate, and drama. Considerations and exceptions. No, I couldn’t let my OS go. I have spent years tweaking and tuning, molding my ideal computing environment. We pushed forward.

Well I’m pleased to say it was mostly uneventful. The ethernet adapter was renamed causing misconfigured dhcp, but otherwise it booted right up like nothing happened. Sorry, linux is boring now.

  • Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
    55·
    7 days ago

    That’s one thing I don’t like about modern Linux is how it names network interfaces.

    I miss the old eth0,1,3 or wlan0,1,2 etc.

    • Nik282000@lemmy.ca
      17·
      7 days ago

      Around 2007 I had a Windows laptop die on me and drove me to device agnosticism. Maybe I learned the wrong lesson but now I keep my OS and data separate enough that a b0rked OS is an hour’s inconvenience instead of a day’s recovery.

      Still, it’s pretty awesome that you can just shuck a drive into a totally new machine and only have to adjust network settings.

  • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
    17·
    6 days ago

    linux is boring now.

    FTFY :)

    I once put an HDD into a completely new machine with all new hardware (same architecture, though), and it booted without any issues whatsoever. Must be 15-20 years ago but I still remember the new machine.

    Linux always was exceptionally great when it comes to hardware changes after installation.

  • umbrella@lemmy.ml
    14·
    6 days ago

    if you have an os that modified you should have scripts to redo it. or at least have it written down.

    it helps a bunch!

  • SeikoAlpinist@slrpnk.net
    14·
    6 days ago

    Congrats. First of all this really made me feel old … Skylake seems recent to me and that’s the year my kid was born. But secondly, this reminds me of those people who used to post in /r/debian about having like 20 years on the same install and they just kept changing the hardware and if a drive ever got replaced they used dd to clone from one drive to another without reinstalling. So when they would do something like stat /, it would be something like 2002 that the filesystem was created. I think those people/stories are awesome.

    I think our expectations are pretty jacked up here because that’s how all the operating systems I remember are. Just pull the drive and plug it in another computer. From the DOS days to the BSD world. It’s only Windows and macOS that are the outliers here with their “trusted computing” bullshit. They created the problem with tying the install to the hardware, and then they sold the solution of backing up to their cloud for a monthly subscription if your hardware ever just died.

      • SeikoAlpinist@slrpnk.net
        1·
        5 days ago

        Me either. My longest install is about to turn 5, but that’s an OpenBSD closet laptop server that gets upgraded remotely with every release.

        I’m doing okay on this laptop; just hit 1 year on bookworm. But I’m also bandwidth constrained (kilo-bits per second) and can’t really distrohop like I used to.

  • BCsven@lemmy.ca
    7·
    6 days ago

    Sorry, linux is boring now now.

    I found that on OpenSUSE. Once getting past the learning curve of linux and OpenSUSE’s general use, It has updated flawlessly for years and there is never anything to tinker with.

    • HumanPerson@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      6 days ago

      Not tumbleweed, right? I recall generally recall liking it until the kde 6 update broke everything if you tried to update from konsole in kde, and I remember others having the same issue. Not sure how they didn’t catch that.

      • vinayv@lemmy.world
        3·
        6 days ago

        I was considering tumbleweed on my work laptop. This makes me nervous. Was it easy to fix?

        • ProtonBadger@lemmy.ca
          4·
          6 days ago

          It’s fixed. In general no distro is fail safe, recently even an immutable distro (our current hopeful advance in update reliability) had a hickup on an update that required manual intervention. It basically boils down to that it’s not possible to test for everything, we can only hope to continually add more test cases and improve human procedures based on post mortems.

          • vinayv@lemmy.world
            2·
            6 days ago

            I understand your point completely. I’m a long time Arch Linux user, so I’m not averse to manual interventions.

  • Minty95@lemm.ee
    9·
    7 days ago

    I’m going to do the same later this year as like you my setup is 10 years plus, though I’ll re-install Arch again What MB, GPU card etc did you buy? , as I’m out of touch with the latest equipment now, so would be grateful for a heads up

    • CaptDust@sh.itjust.worksOP
      4·
      6 days ago

      New components:

      • CPU: Intel i7-13700KF
      • Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Eagle AX
      • RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR5-6000
      • GPU: Nvidia RTX 4070ti
      • Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z63 AIO

      This works great for my needs, but there are some compromises that others may not find acceptable. The mobo is kind of budget level and only has a single 16x pcie slot. The CPU doesn’t include onboard graphics. The radiator is 280mm, as that was what would fit in my case. There’s no RGB except the cooler.

      • monsterpiece42@reddthat.com
        2·
        6 days ago

        I like your build a lot. Don’t forget to move your OS to another drive via clone or something occasionally… Your old drive will wear out eventually. If it’s SSD, they often just work until they just don’t, so it’s not like the old days when an HDD would just slow down and give you a warning.

        Cheers!

        • CaptDust@sh.itjust.worksOP
          1·
          5 days ago

          Thank you :) I tried to be reasonable with it, it’s all too easy to break the bank haha. I have two “system” ssds that replicates itself with a weekly rsync job, and the larger storage SSD has an even larger SATA HDD it syncs to. Good looking out!

    • morgin@lemm.ee
      4·
      7 days ago

      ^^^ so many motherboards available not sure what i’d even be looking for

      • CaptDust@sh.itjust.worksOP
        3·
        6 days ago

        Motherboards are tough to recommend because it really depends what you need from your system. My approach was to choose a CPU first then I could start looking at boards supporting the socket. I wanted ATX, nothing smaller. Memory support, just DDR5 and room to expand (it turns out most boards will handle like 192GB these days lol). I wanted the ability to change CPU frequency, that eliminated boards with a B-series chipsets. Next SSD support (at least 3x m.2) and USB ports (minimum 6x USB 3.0). Finally price, I didn’t want to exceed $250.

        When all that was dialed in, I was left with like 8 options, from there it was manageable to read reviews for the nuance between them.

  • SayCyberOnceMore@feddit.ukEnglish
    2·
    7 days ago

    That’s comforting to know.

    I have kinda the opppsite: a machine that isn’t changing it’s hardware, but it hasn’t had updates in ~2 years (due to some issues with an AUR package back then…)

    I wonder if it’ll upgrade…?

    I’ve kept arch-keyring updating now & again… so it should work, but I know packages change dependencies so, it’ll be an interesting one (ie full backup first)

    • mrvictory1@lemmy.world
      7·
      7 days ago

      I brought a 10 month old system up to date and here is the advice I was given:

      • Update from tty
      • Update archlinux-keyring first
      • Reboot immediately after update is complete

      Unexpectedly, I did not have to resolve any dependency issues. I just hit “enter” on any prompt lol