Except the middle class actually does own most stuff, and consume the most. The ultra-rich are rich, but there’s just so few of them.

In the US, actually-doing-better-and-better middle class, for the most part. I’m seeing the top 10% as a usual “center” in analysis of the k-shaped economy. It’s brown people and Trump voters in trailer parks that are actually losing.

Looks like the trend is just a lot less pronounced in Canada, though. We’re all a bit poorer.

19% would be the complacent middle class 🤮

Hot tip - that’s most Lemmy users. I’m guessing there’s also people in the top 0.9 kicking around.

Edit: Aaaand yup, there’s cope in the comments.

Socialists are mostly the champaign kind now, although that doesn’t make them wrong, neccesarily. Honestly, I have trouble picturing the old days when the kind of people I live around would have voted left.

Yup. It was after something else little me was actually trying to watch. Couldn’t unsee.

Yeah, I haven’t noticed an unusual amount. Lemmy is still mostly Americans, and then maybe Brits and Germans. Just anyone that can speak English and has had broadband long enough to acclimatise to nerd culture, basically.

Now tell the AI to generate one weird trick and the the doctors that don’t want us to know about it.

Also Alberta, also yes.

Danielle Smith would be less able to break things while working on it, too.

What is this from?

Debian is pretty plug and play. Ubuntu tries to be idiot-proof like Windows on top of it. If like most people you don’t do your own tech support it’s a non-issue for the most part. Either way you take it to the guy who set it up if something breaks or needs changing.

Gaming would be the exception where you still need Windows. It’s getting better but support is not universal.

Then there is another aspect: if you can’t speak english most good sources for troubleshooting are out of your reach.

Yeah, I could see how that would be hard.

I mean, what makes a terrible person vs. a typically flawed human is massively subject to debate. Actually, the nature of morality itself is.

The thing about Linux is more defencible, but most people IRL have a vague idea at best what it even is. It doesn’t have to be untrue to be unpopular.

Oh yeah, it’s common as dirt. We do have a monoculture going here, though, and like anywhere those allow strawmen to kind of fester.

but i can understand if someone wants to use windows for ease of use.

Lemmy probably disagrees with that. I mean, I could argue with it.

Even if they’re right they’re highly unusual, echo-chambery things. America is 1/3 solid Democrats and even some of those people are going to try to coexist. Most people have a very vague idea of what Linux even is. Some might not have heard of it at all.

And Lemmy contains a lot of polemics.

I meant most mainstream, as in they might be okay with OpenBSD as well.

People have to be aware Linux is itself a weird nerd thing, although like in this thread there seems to be a reluctance to admit we’re not a representative sample of the population.

Ooor that fools seldom differ.

'Member when Reddit was sure they’d found the Boston bomber?

You will often see strawmen and a lack of understanding toward groups that disagree with the prevailing thoughts here.

Like literally in this thread, including towards OP, although I don’t see anybody trying to be mean about it (yet).

Imma guess it’s like 10% common left, 30% extra extreme and 60% extreme. And then there’s the whole Hexbear thing, which is like an unrelated axis of belief or disbelief.

I mean, sure. But OP is basically just pointing out Lemmy is much closer to incestuous amplification.

Most people IRL agree with that view.

Now try “Linux is the most mainstream OS you should consider” or “only terrible people would vote Republican”. Agreement on Lemmy will be 90-some percent. Agreement IRL will be a distinct minority.

I agree with this opinion, lol.

Lemmy is an echo chamber, even a comically specific one. Reddit had that reputation in the early days too, although Lemmy is dealing with the fact it’s a technical FOSS thing disproportionately certain people will appreciate, on top of it.

I’m doing my part to get downvoted a lot. In the meanwhile, just keep touching grass and listening to people you disagree with. Especially if they disagree with you in a new and unexpected way. I’ll add looking at polling and demographics as well, since it’s the only way to identify which bubbles you’re in. Even IRL they’re impossible to escape totally.

And most people here live in a city and work in IT. Like, take the 10% of your area that agrees with you the most and there’s going to be vastly more diversity of thought and opinion.

You know what they say about thinking everyone else is an asshole…