Lol all your responses just to come to the conclusion that you don’t really care either way
How you came to that conclusion I have no idea. I am ashamed of myself for engaging with someone so lacking in basic comprehension and literacy.
Hahaha oh boy. Well I guess that if you’d know how stupid that remark actually is, you wouldn’t have made it
No need to play coy dude, my remark was based off of your comments and I stand by my statement.
at the same time you correctly point out that US intervention usually fails when they deploy on the ground
This is not the point where US intervention fails. The boots on the ground do their job quite well initially. Where the US fails is long term, they have no long term strategy for these nations they defeat beyond sitting around with their thumbs up their arses for several expensive decades while their opponents simply wait them out.
In terms of retaliation, I still do not believe Iran can do enough to deter the US and the US policy of overwhelming retaliation would just lead to their own destruction by following this path.
In terms of your might is right point on imperialism I would again refer you back to the last century and a bit where all of the great empires collapsed one by one, starting with the Ottoman’s, followed by the Germans, British, French and Russian. This was the century of the insurgent, TE Lawrence, Michael Collins, Vo Nguyen Giap amongst others.
In very few cases is the leader of a state solely responsible for the military actions of said state
The USA is one case where the president is actually Commander in Chief of the armed forces. Provided the order is not illegal, the army have to follow the order of their superior. Trump and the republican party have been going down the state capture route a long time now and there is no one left who will say no to him, as we have seen since he has come to office. Even if someone was brave enough to dissent the would be removed from their position without much thought.
To me it looks like Trump is going to get America dragged into another expensive forever war that with their current debt levels they cannot afford. The attempted decapitation looks like it will not lead to a quick end as Iran entrenches. The American people should rightly be asking the question of why are we striking Iran when Iran has not now or ever posed a real threat to the USA. This is Trump’s war, he never even asked for congressional approval. If he’s going to bankrupt the American people he should at least have a damn good explanation of why. We are all scratching our heads trying to figure this out.
What a sniveling response, every one of those killings were illegal murders by the USA, no trial, no jury just the executioner. Innocent until proven guilty is the law of the land in the USA, you sound like you believe brown middle eastern folk are not entitled to the same privilege.
Speaking of murdering innocent bystanders, the USA has form in indiscriminately bombing weddings to kill one target. The USA also backs its ally Israel to the hilt in their genocidal slaughter of Palestinians. The latest war led to innocent people being slaughtered at the highest rate compared to combatants of any war in history.
I understand the concept of tit for tat retaliation, the problem is American foreign policy for these instances is tit for tat tat. America makes sure its retaliatory responses are overwhelming making a tit for tat deterrence useless against them, this is the advantage of having the largest stick in the world. This is also why America’s rivals engage in asymmetric warfare with layers of plausible deniability.
This also assumes Iran is dealing with a rational actor acting logically, there is no evidence Trump is one in this case. This strike has no logical beneficial outcome for the American people, it will be interesting to see if Congress allows America to continue. Trumps reasons for doing Netenyahus bidding to the detriment of the American people is certainly a choice that we can all speculate on.
I disagree with your comparing Iran Vs US to the Brits Vs the Zulu’s. It is almost as if you have slept through the last 110 years of insurgency warfare and how effective it can be. Iran is a huge country with a population of 90 million. The USA can bomb with impunity sure but Iran has more people than Afghanistan and Iraq combined with greater military capabilities. Boots on the ground will be needed, you can’t win a war with stand off munitions alone. America was entirely unsuccessful with their previous two attempts at regime change by force this century, why would they do better against a bigger and better armed country? Look at the bunch of clowns in charge in America currently, I would not trust them to mind my plants for a week away let alone regime change in Iran.
My last post shows I have baggage, regarding the USA and Israel slaughtering another 150 innocent children? I am as guilty of this as Netenyahu is for his crimes against humanity and the USA for backing Israel all the way. As a parent I am angry that none of those little girls gets to grow up and have a life as a result if uncle Sam’s heavy handed tactics.
We both obviously have different definitions of what a “precision strike” is. You think that several hellfire missiles obliterating 2 vehicles and 10 people is a precision strike where I would call a precision strike one where the target is taken out alone with no innocent bystanders also murdered.
When is America going to wake up and realise that Hollywood has been lying to them for years, America are the bad guys. The Trump guy in charge is the perfect embodiment of American values, he is the president America deserves. The only silver lining is that this clearly marks the beginning of the end of 150 years or so of American hegemony.
There has been a disinformation campaign going around claiming that the Iranian government admitted responsibility that has been debunked and also false photographic evidence that has also been debunked.
It seems like someone or some organisation is putting a fair bit of effort into a disinformation campaign to muddy the waters on this one. This is shameful stuff to be amplifying at this stage without any evidence, you should be ashamed.
You responded to me disputing how accurate the USA’s precision missiles are by using the murder of Soleimani as an example of the USA’s precision weapons. I disputed this by saying Soleimani’s murder was hardly a precision strike and more a loitering reaper drone with knowledge of its target’s arrival unleashing several missiles in a hellish fireball that engulfed two cars and killed 10 people.
Surely attempting to blow up a target next to a small girls school would be the perfect time to use one of these costly precision weapons, if they exist? Now 150 children are dead, thanks for the “freedom”, I’m sure those girls parents are delighted.
The loitering predator drone fired several missiles engulfing two cars in the explosion, killing 10 people. That does not sound to me like precision and more kill them all and let God sort it out.
Or do they have this capability to put a missile within a metre of the target and hit that girls school in Tehran on purpose?
You are comparing Trump to a shark smelling blood in the water, this is an interesting choice by yourself. You talk about America attacking Iran because they are “weak” but you never seem to question why America is attacking Iran, a country of 90 million people on the other side of the world. Why is the real question here, why is America spending billions of dollars, American lives and American international credibility to attack Iran, a country that has never attacked the USA or any other nation in the middle east unprovoked?
Why did America attack Iraq back in the early 2000s? At the time 70% of Americans mistakenly thought it was because Iraq was involved in 9/11. We now know from declassified documents that the main reason the USA attacked Iraq was they thought Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or “WMDs”. This information came from Israeli secret intelligence and we now know this intelligence was bogus. What we are seeing here is the Americans being led by the nose once again by the Israelis into another expensive regime change forever war.
I and many others believe this is down to the weakness of the character of the American leadership, that they are so easily manipulated once again by their Israeli “allies”. The same allies that attacked the USS Liberty and spit on American Christians in Tel Aviv. Why do Israelis have free health care and the Americans do not? The USA is subservient to the Israelis to such a degree the only logical explanation to any rational thinker is that Israel must have something on the current American leadership. This will be known as the Epstein war. P
I think the nation you are referring to is more well known for blowing up entire weddings to kill one guest. None of the USA’s “precision” munitions are anywhere near as accurate as you have described according to the people who actually use them. The supposed accuracy is just propaganda to make citizens more accepting of the government bombing other countries as they think the government “will only kill the bad guys.”
The reality is what happened to those 100+ school girls in Tehran. “Collateral damage” is the US militaries catchphrase.
The Israeli air defense system is far from impenetrable as we saw from the last Israeli Iranian war when Israel was repeatedly rocked by Iranian missiles. The air defense can be overloaded by saturation attacks and are unreliable/unable to stop hypersonic missiles which Iran does possess.
When Israel attacked Iran last year they did not expect Iran’s response to be as effective as it turned out to be and needed to ask the Americans for help. This time the Israelis made sure to have US back up from the beginning.
The US cannot just cut off trade with one EU country. If he tries to do this then EU policy is to act as one, the mechanisms for this are already in place. This is just more pointless bluster from the orange pedi.