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  • Trump has spent his entire life trying to get into “the club”. The specific “club” he was trying to get into was the Hollywood one for many years. The Apprentice got him close, but the “reality TV” club isn’t quite the same as the “Hollywood club”. Luckily, for Trump, it was enough to get him into the political club. I’m still not quite sure how, but it was. How it got him into the presidential club is even further baffling, but he did that too. Don’t get me wrong, I understand how he got elected. But I don’t understand how he survived the primaries. (I mean I do, but I’m just sad about it.)

    But Trump, assuming he loses the upcoming election, is on his way out.

    You’re probably right that he’ll never be in jail. He’ll never serve a day in prison. But he’ll be in court. He’ll be in court until the day he dies. It’s not perfect. It’s not what he deserves. But it’s what’ll happen, and I’ll take that.



  • So I’m going to try and bridge the gap here since this is a weirdly toxic thread and I hope just by old (? Fuck I hope I’m not old) people. I’m a millennial, so here we go.

    Chappell Roan is a Gen Z musician. I legitimately couldn’t name a single one of her songs. I’ve been told “here, listen to this” more than a dozen times. I still have no idea.

    As she mentions in this video this is her third presidential election. She has never voted in an election where Donald Trump wasn’t the Republican nominee.

    Think about that for a minute. Seriously. Imagine only viewing Republicans as the party of Trump. How fucked up is that? Hillary v Trump. Biden v Trump. Harris v Trump.

    Remember voting for Hope in '08? I don’t care what you think about Obama now. Remember '08 Obama? You voted against McCain. Do you know how much I wish I could vote FOR McCain now? How much I wish I could vote FOR Romney now? We live in a fucking twilight zone now. I’m thrilled to vote for Harris and Biden before her. Biden for the last four years has been fucking bliss. Harris for the next four years is a god send.

    But Biden isn’t above criticism. Harris isn’t above criticism. They are when compared to the orange blob but you can’t live in that fucking world.

    It’s fucked up when you look at the world we’re in now. Some random gen z musician says I can’t endorse Harris? I get it. I’ve been there. She sure as shit isn’t endorsing Trump but to look at Harris and go “Fuck Yeah!”… that just isn’t happening.

    Trump had pulled us SOOOOOO FARRRR off course. He’s ruined an entire generation. An entire generation, gone, wasted to Trump. It’s fucking horrible.

    Gen Z, bless their hearts, didn’t go through what we went through. Luckily we’re homies with Gen Z. I’m not sure we fully understand each other but at the end of the day we agree with each other.

    I don’t want to leave them out but Gen X stared this fight. Us Millennials kept it going. And finally we have the numbers with Gen Z. We’re going to move forward. We’re going to move past Trump. (If you can fucking vote this round GET OFF YOUR FUCKING ASS.)

    Chappell Roan is your little sister. I don’t care that you don’t know who she is. She’s on our side. She’s speaking honestly. She isn’t quite as jaded as you are. She’s got a following. I don’t care what Taylor Swift said either, but she’s right. She agrees. We need to move forward.

    I get it. She didn’t endorse Kamala. Whatever. She ultimately agrees with her. Not on everything. We still got work to do. We know Kamala is the next step. We understand this takes multiple steps. Voting for multiple steps isn’t sexy. “What do we want” “Change” “When do we want it” “Slowly over the next several years” That isn’t sexy. But bus stops aren’t sexy.

    We’re taking a bus. You’re there. A weird dude is there wearing a cape. A weird lady is there petting a Beanie Baby. I don’t want to get on the bus either, but it’s going the way I want to go, so I’m getting on.

    Join us.




  • I am not at all presupposing that Republicans are more informed. In fact anyone swayed by endorsements is likely less informed overall.

    My focus is on Republicans who can not vote for Trump and are likely to either sit out the vote or suck it up and vote for Trump anyway. Seeing other members of their in group endorse Harris gives these people the justification to also vote for Harris. These endorsements are easily digestible headlines, I’m certain people do see them no matter how removed from politics they are.

    Now a potential Harris voter, who doesn’t like Regan, seeing these endorsements and then concluding both parties are the same and not voting for Harris just doesn’t add up. If you don’t like Regan it’s not for some superficial “he’s a Republican” reason. Go watch any Regan speech, ignore the substance, he’s a likable guy. If you don’t like Regan it’s because of policy. If we’re talking policy then endorsements don’t matter at all. Harris has policy X. Republicans endorse Harris. Harris still has policy X. Who gives a shit who endorsed Harris.

    Endorsements aren’t for everyone. I think they convince low information voters. I think Republicans endorsing Harris helps.





  • I’m telling you, with first hand experience, that they do.

    And again, no, an endorsement alone isn’t ever going to convince me. There are multiple things that can convince people.

    Some people are going to stick with what they’ve always stuck with.

    Some people are going to focus on personality, “Have a beer with” .

    Some are going to look at policy.

    And of course no one is simple, so it’s usually a combination of the above.

    But those Republicans who have always voted Republican, who finally see Trump for what he is, are looking for an alternative. They’re not risk takers. They aren’t just going to vote Harris if they’ve decided they can’t vote Trump. If however they see others from their crowd do it, they are likely to follow along.


  • It’s not a contradiction, it’s a focus on Republicans.

    I’m saying that endorsements like these convince Republican voters to vote for Harris.

    For those who think there is no difference between the parties it may be less helpful. However if you’re truly standing in the middle, watching one side cross over to the other and only ever one side crossing over to the other, that should give you an idea of at least which way to start looking.

    Of course I understand the cynic who just says everyone is just flip flopping around. For those folks endorsements aren’t the argument to make. Republicans voting for Democrats means they must be the same. In these cases it’s better to focus on policy or the individual. If I were an undecided voters who endorsed who wouldn’t sway me. Show me the policies, that’s what I’m looking for.