At some point they’ll have to bring out the big guns and murder Bob Dylan.

Handing over all local gcwrnment data to openai is as bad as allowing the Chinese to build our 5g network

Yeah but neither the romans, or medieval peasants had computers, so why are you on about?

While all getting richer on massive government contracts paid for by other people’s tax.

(Actually I don’t know about Buffett. Musk’s wealth being built on government money is well known. Amazon staff on food stamps constitutes government welfare on a massive scale, never mind the inducements Amazon get for placing distribution centres in whichever district etc etc etc.)

Is there a bigger red flag than a message on it saying ‘if you break this seal you can’t sue us!’

If it worked people would be on board. It doesn’t.

It is used as a means to justify a catastrophic business as usual so fuck them.

It isn’t haunting him much. These stories appear designed to placate, deflect anger. Don’t be fooled by them.

Where was this work? The prison kitchen or something?

Uber thought they were going to 1. undercut taxi drivers pay, then 2. be in prime position to get rid of drivers when one of their mates in silicon valley solved driverless cars.

That didn’t happen so they are forced to be a taxi company dealing with unionised staff and local regulations and shite. Long may they have the real world to deal with, mired in anti-tech administration of human beings while their mates have moved on to undercutting white collar office workers en-masse with large language models as unsuited to the task as their crap self driving cars were unsuited to getting rid of drivers.

And so is extinction! Nothing more natural than extinction: pretty much every species ever evolved has gone extinct or is on its way now!

Human ingenuity is a hell of a thing, but it isn’t impossible for us too. I don’t feet it ir reasonable to put human extinction on the table now, but if we burn all known fossil fuel reserves it is, maybe if we continue on our current trajectory into 2100 it will be.

Presumably the risk of getting caught. There must be quite a few people aware of what is and isn’t in that evidence (edit including people in the previous administration and people Trump has sacked), some of whom might whistleblow.

Police are not the brightest in any society.

So I guess somebody needs to tell them that they need to focus their efforts a little better if their current plan is ‘anyone with a Google Pixel is a drug dealer’.

Can I suggest they start with the people with drugs, rather than the people with the – not uncommon - google phones in their search for drug dealers?

Earth system scientists put the kind of society complex enough for hospitals and higher education require an energy returned on energy invested in the teens. ‘Renewables’ (let’s call them low carbon, there isn’t anything very renewable about the blade of a wind turbine) barely touch that and often don’t get near.

• The picture is so varied that one can find statistics to counter this ‘barely touches the teens’ claim. Look at the totality of the picture and draw your own conclusions. I am just presenting some reasoning to justify a claim that we are heading towards a much lower energy future, maybe next century or something (which doesn’t have to be bad, provided everybody isn’t slaving for a class of energy-obese billionaires protected by a fascist police state).

• I looked into this a lot about 15 years ago, when it seemed that we were still in the last chance saloon on avoiding catastrophic climate change. The science might have moved on. I don’t have current sources anybody interested in the concept of eroei and the complexity it creates will have to look themselves.

Carney is and always was a neo-liberal banker. :It seems inevitable, all things considered, that the fossil-fuel powered neo-liberal capitalism the West (maybe English speaking countries) has experienced since Reagan (and Thatcher) will only set the stage for fascism.

A choice between right or hard right is a choice between the length of fuse you want on the bomb. Unfortunately, the longer the fuse the bigger the bomb - because of the problem-multiplying impacts of things like climate change and poverty/reduction in education etc etc etc.

Oh look, it’s vice.com, so presumably these ‘scientists’ are from the University of Joe Rogan or U of Y(outube) or something.

As I said. This individual simply cannot tolerate a different reading of the pro-corporate, anti-diversity EU so they immediately resort to vulgar insult.

Believe it or not it suits me personally, on the most cynical level - free movement etc - to be in the EU. It just happens that I grew up with people who have been hammered by EU membership, and who voted heavily against it. I abstained because I won’t vote against the interests of the people I grew up with.

What I said about reform is absolutely on the cards anyway, forcing a rejoining of the EU on people who voted against it greatly hastens their rise. This is something I don’t want to see. EU citizens don’t seem able to bend, and when you don’t bend you break.

Anyway. Block it is.

There is literally zero chance of the British accepting the Euro. It has disaster baked into it.

The Maastricht treaty defined that you lose the right to 1. run budsget deficits in periods of economic contraction. 2. Set interest rates. 3. Devalu your currency when necessary.

Greece got to borrow at rates Germany enjoy - for a while. Germany gets a hugely devalued currency which actually allows it to be a great exporter (well that and the US post WW2 investment).

This inequality in peripheral countries absolutely drives the rise of the far right.

Other than that |the British people don’t want to be in the EU. Being forced into it will put Reform UK into power. They are as Russia aligned as Trump.

Edit - I know most poeople will not be able to cope with this reading of the EU and will not change their mind in any way. When presented with a fact that does not match the reality one has (co-)constructed one has to reject the fact, because one cannot reject reality. So I am happy to agree to disagree, I won’t reply further in this thread, I will just block. And you can downvote this, but you can’t downvote reality away. If only you could, eh!?

The UK political classes ignoring the brexit vote, and rejoining the EU gets Reform UK into power. Who will leave the EU, and are as aligned with Russia as Trump is.

The likes of the bbc framed the brexit debate as a choice between ‘liberalism’ and something xenophobic, which is not why the vast majority of people wanted out of the EU, and omitted the stories of the majority who had very good reason to be unhappy with the EU.

The EU is pro corporatism, anti diversity (why have one set of rules for all of Europe, written by corporate lobbyists in Brussels? What is right for the majority of UK citizens, is not right for the Irish, What is right for Germans is not right for Greeks. etc etc etc. Europe has a wonderfully diverse culture, one set of homogenised rules written by corporate lobbbyists is not right and never will be. Brexit is about the right to self-determinism and autonomy.

The EU was an American idea. They wanted a bulwark against the Soviet Union in Europe. We are in a very different world now.

If the EU wants a Russia aligned nuclear power on their Western side within a decade they push for the UK to rejoin. Th EU ere disgusting in their dealing with the UK post brexit. To expect or demand further concession shows just how hopelessly mislead EU citizens are.

He made it clear pre-election that that was his intention.

Are we still pretending that voter sentiment is a concern?