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  • “I’ve been a DSA member for over 10 years,” said 40-year-old health department worker Will, at the Fort Greene party. “This just shows that our politics are not radical, that New Yorkers actually think what we believe is sensible, and maybe the rest of the country is ready for sensible, commonsense, Democratic socialism.”

    I doubt it.

    I still consider myself a democratic socialist. I left the DSA a few years ago but my ideal is still democratic socialism. I still believe in democratic socialism, but believing in something doesn’t make it true or viable. I think the chances of viability would increase significantly if a majority of Americans believed in it too, but that’s just not the case. Now, maybe that’s just because the American people have been conditioned by propaganda into opposing any form of socialism, and that may be true, but I don’t know how to overcome that.

    But while democratic socialism remains a relatively fringe ideology, I think that social democracy is much more mainstream and I think it can become much more popular again. And, unlike democratic socialism, social democracy has actually been implemented at a national level and has a good track record. It’s still capitalist, but at least it attempts to mitigate some of capitalism’s more harmful elements and provide a solid social welfare base for the country. Social democracy definitely seems much more viable, at least in the near term. Though, getting a majority of Americans to embrace social democracy again will probably still be a tough row to hoe, due to decades of entrenched right wing libertarian and neoliberal conditioning.
















  • The Chinese model being superior to the US model is not a revelation, we’ve known this for decades:

    …if a country’s goal is economic growth above all other considerations, the truly winning combination would appear to be neither liberal democracy nor socialism of either a Leninist or democratic variety, but the combination of liberal economics and authoritarian politics…or what we might term a “market-oriented authoritarianism.”

    • Francis Fukuyama, The End of History and the Last Man, 1992

    There’s no better socioeconomic model than the Chinese model IF the goal is economic growth “above all other considerations.” Should we value growth above all else? I don’t think so, but many people do, especially the rich and powerful.