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  • no less unhealthy

    Yeah, given the history of capitalism, that will not happen. Look, they even made real meat unhealthy just to increase the profit (meat “yield” from animal), with lab-grown meat they would cut corners even further.

    Chickens we are given today weight at least 5 times more than chicken 50 years ago (or “heritage breed”) and reach that weight in 6 weeks vs a year. To even buy a heritage breed chicken you need to have time, money and know-how, and you’re still likely to get just a 100 days old chicken.

    I can’t even predict how they will enshittify lab-grown meat if it’s ever perfected.


  • I don’t like fast food, beyond/impossible meat is factory produced slop. They even made a South Park episode about it.

    Also, with imitation and lab-grown options, I’d no longer have to deal with the disgust factor of handling raw meat (esp. the juices)

    Could it be you were never taught to respect the animals we eat? I find that common in people who grew up in big cities / never spent time in the countryside / are young enough to have never seen a pig being dismantled / never fished.

    My another point against lab grown meat is that so far any time we tried to manufacture food, within 30 years it turned out to be very bad for us (e.g. obesity epidemic is mainly caused by UPF).


  • I see. The sources you’re quoting (at least some, but again - gish gallop) do paint this picture a little bit differently.

    Human Rights Watch said that insurgent forces have failed to take all feasible precautions to avoid deploying in densely populated areas, thereby endangering civilians in violation of the laws of war. In one case, separatist forces moved their base closer to the center of the town when Grad rockets struck their base and a nearby residential area.

    That’s literally human shield strategy done by Donetsk insurgents.

    Russian propaganda parts is to omit that information to put them in pity position instead conflicting position.

    Another example, the Hill:

    The odious Russian media tried to paint Ukraine as a land of Nazis, though that is patently wrong

    I think you might be misunderstanding something and imagining me saying there is not US propaganda or Ukrainian propaganda, for example whitewashing Azov?








  • Disclaimer: Am not an USian but an European.

    https://shs.cairn.info/revue-francaise-de-sociologie-1-2007-5-page-101?lang=en

    This is a French journal about fear in women and how it affects their mobility. Whenever someone says

    the risk of a fragile, shallow, unhinged, emotionally unstable man going berserk and MURDERING her.

    it pops in my mind. The data they gathered suggests that women fear of violence is unrelated to actual rates of said violence happening, but is correlated to past smaller transgressions (“anticipated violence”). Long story short, if you were ever catcalled, or given a [clumsy] compliment, you’re likely to imagine (“anticipate”) out-of-proportion violence in multiple contexts.

    The actual crime rate and crime gender proportion (in the US) - https://counciloncj.org/womens-justice-by-the-numbers/ - violence victims rate is 60-70% down since 1984 and since 2009 men and women are as likely to be the victim [before that men were most likely]; and the number of women perpetrators grown up. Oh, and the homicide rate by spouse is also closing the gap (although some studies suggest that the increase in women killing their husbands should be attributed to them not being dismissed as potential perpetrators by the police force)

    I’m not dismissing your feelings OP, and your strategy seems very prudent, but I want to add to this discussion that it’s much much safer than you or the social media will try to paint, despite the fear you feel.

    And that you’re not more likely to be a victim of a violent crime than a man (https://counciloncj.org/womens-justice-by-the-numbers/).



  • That is an interesting point of view. Very USA exceptional. It’s also dumbed down a lot. ARPANET is a computer network, but it’s not internet, nor it was the first. It kickstarted popularity of computer networks in the USA and provided first FTP and (I think) first remote login.

    Popularity of computer networks in USA definitely was a formative quality over the 20 years of international development of the Internet.

    But saying ARPANET was the internet is like saying gramophone is Netflix.

    First computer network to send packets to another computer was British NPL network. Then US government founded ARPANET, built upon that. Except that DARPA besides having own researchers outsourced to Stanford, BBN and University College of London (“How the Internet Came to Be”, quoting I forgot whom from DARPA).

    Then French Cyclades computer network built upon ARPANET and proposed that multiple networks should be able to communicate with each other.

    Then USA non-profit IEEE looked at all that proposed TCP/IP for cross-network communication, and that is the thing that (after many iterations over a decade) led to the Internet not being separate networks like AOL or Computerverse or whatever.

    Now we’re getting closer to the internet and it’s time for https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_data_network

    First was Spain with RETD , then France, then USA with Telenet. Then Canada. Then in 1978 we started connecting those separate networks. I think the first properly working project was https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Packet_Switched_Service between British post office and USA post office.

    On those public data networks the Internet’s physical layer was built.

    In USA U.S. National Science Foundation was founding more and more computer networks, including CSNET. That’s still not internet. It’s 1980 and it will take a decade of new inventions (Ethernet, LAN, DNS) and improvements & implementations (like to TCP/IP) before we will get the internet.

    Here’s a nifty source for that decade, because I spent 50 minutes writing this post before I noticed I’m arguing with a guy over the internet about the internet.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet (there is a nice timeline list there).