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@bryceac @MangoPenguin @RommieDroid LibreOffice is certainly an exception. One deb, no problem, but a whole screen full of them? And just running dpkg -i may get you two instances depending on the update? I finally went for flatpak on this one.

@WatDabney @themeatbridge

You got it right!

I went from Skoal to those home-brew vape juices when…about 2010 or 11. Hardly vaped, just put it on a pad under my lip.

Hated the taste of burning cigarettes, loved some of those fruit flavours. Finally my drug tasted good. Flavour for an old man, not the kids.

Quit 3 years ago and still crave. Horrible time. Quit alcohol 15 years ago with less problems. But quitting is just terrible, no matter the drug.

Somebody who hasn’t struggled with addiction doesn’t get much cred in these discussions, from me.

@otters_raft

What do you want to be banned…the smoking or the nicotine?

All the junk from burning plant matter kills you slowly. Nicotine in small amounts is horribly addictive; that is what keeps the smoking going. Or vaping. Or any other tobacco. I speak from decades of experience, I used them all, from 12 years old to 77. Quitting the nicotine was hell, and the vehicle did not matter.

So ban the damn nicotine and be done with it. Poo on all the people making money out of it, they are drug dealers.

At this point the political will just dies.