Ah. My instance reports the last activity from lemm.ee from 45mins ago… So that’d be June 30th, 00:14 Estonian time. And the main page forwards to join-lemmy.org now. Looks like the shutdown to me.

Well… it’s 10 before midnight here. I’m pretty sure a bit east from me it’s the 30th already. Not so much in the west. But I don’t know where lemm.ee was located.

It’s 30th of June. Lemm.ee is shutting down now.

https://piefed.social/post/816659

Idk about this. I think the main issue is social media and filter bubbles. Generative AI contributes, but enough fakes news is there anyways. People will also use real riot videos from 4 years ago and claim that’s the LA riots. The Russian troll farms can do this with or without AI. Trump, too. They’ll just come up with drinking bleach is good with their own brains.

I don’t want to refute this. Generative AI accelerates it immensely and makes it easier and way more. But mind that the core of the problem is society, education and most of all social media.

Also this isn’t exactly new, we had Cambridge Analytica since 2014 or something. And manipulating elections and politics by technology is even older than that.

Yes. Steam is available on Linux, pretty easy to install and it comes with a compatibility layer (Proton) which works quite well.

Linux is a bit different than Windows. But I’d say just using it is about as complicated as using Windows. You’ll just have to try and see whether you like it. And if it’s hard or easy for you to relearn a few things. I mean if you’re in the Browser and Steam all day, those will be the same applications and also look and work the same way. Other than that you could face some issues with gaming hardware and you have to fiddle with things, or everything works out of the box. You can’t tell beforehand.

Seems printer drivers are amongst the worst. I had a brother inkjet printer/scanner combo a while back. Pretty much the same issues. Also what they call driver and offer on their website really sucks. Now I have one from Epson and that just pops up on Mint (and other distros) and I can print right away, no driver installation necessary. And it even started reporting toner levels after some update. Sadly I can’t recommend the printer either, I had several other issues with the thing itself. But this kind of roulette with hardware is really annoying. And I believe it’s really pronounced with those consumer printer/scanner combination devices. The expensive business printers regularly work way better, at least that’s what I’ve seen.

I agree a copyright dystopia wouldn’t be any good. Just mind that wild west or law of the jungle is the “right of the strongest”. You’re advantaging big companies and disadvantaging smaller players or people with ethics or who are more open/transparent.

And I don’t think legality with web scraping is the biggest issue. Sure I maybe could do it if it were possible. But I’m occasionally doing some weird stuff and most services have countermeasures in place. In reality I just can’t scrape Reddit. Lot’s of bots and crawlers just don’t work any more. I’m getting rate limited left and right from all big platforms. Lots of things require an account these days, and services are quick banning me for “suspicious activity”. It’s barely possible to download Youtube videos these days. So, no. I can’t. While Google can just pay for it and have the data.

Also Reddit isn’t really the benevolent underdog here. They’re a big company as well. And they’re not selling their data… They’re selling their user’s data. They’re mainly monetizing other people’s creations.

Well, copyright law is kind of a bit older. When it was written, there was no AI. So it doesn’t address our current issues. It’s utterly unprepared for it. So people need to shoehorn things in, interpret and stretch it… Obviously that comes with a lot of issues, loopholes and shortcomings.

But I can’t follow your argumentation. Why would they get away with this forever? When the car was invented, we also made up rules for cars, because the old ones for horses didn’t help any more. That’s how law is supposed to work… Problems surface, laws get passed to address them. That’s daily business for governments.

And they don’t even get away with stealing this time. That’s what the article says.

If you want to share a pessimistic perspective about governments and mega-corporations, I’m all with you. That’s very problematic. But some regions are better than others. Europe for example had a few clever ideas about what needs to be addressed. It’s not perfect, though. And copyright still isn’t solved anywhere. At least not to my knowledge.

I agree that we need open-source and emancipate ourselves. The main issue I see is: The entire approach doesn’t work. I’d like to give the internet as an example. It’s meant to be very open, connect everyone and enable them to share information freely. It is set up to be a level playing field… Now look what that leads to. Trillion dollar mega-corporations, privacy issues everywhere and big data silos. That’s what the approach promotes. I agree with the goal. But in my opinion the approach will turn out to lead to less open source and more control by rich companies. And that’s not what we want.

Plus nobody even opens the walled gardes. Last time I looked, Reddit wanted money for data. Other big platforms aren’t open either. And there’s kind of a small war going on with the scrapers and crawlers and anti-measures. So it’s not as if it’s open as of now.

Agreed. And even if it were, it’s always like this. Anthropic is a big company. They likely have millions available for good lawyers. While the small guy hasn’t. So they’re more able to just do stuff and do away with some legal restrictions. Or just pay a fine and that’s pocket change for them. So big companies always have more options than the small guy.

Yes. But then do something about it. Regulate the market. Or pass laws which address this. I don’t really see why we should do something like this then, it still kind of contributes to the problem as free reign still advantages big companies.

(And we can write in law whatever we like. It doesn’t need to be a stupid and simplistic solution. If you’re concerned with big companies, just write they have to pay a lot and small companies don’t. Or force everyone to open their models. That’s all options which can be formulated as a new rule. And those would address the issue at hand.)

I’m fairly certain this is the correct answer here. Also there is a seperation between judicative and legislative. It’s the former which is involved, but we really need to bother the latter. It’s the only way, unless we want to use 18th century tools on the current situation.

Keep in mind this isn’t about open-weight vs other AI models at all. This is about how training data can be collected and used.

Previous discussion from yesterday about the same topic: https://lemmy.world/post/31923154

You’re a genius. I hadn’t even thought about that… 🏆

Sure. It could do your summer vacation including those nasty traffic jams without your participation. Send back a few pictures from important landmarks and monuments, all the while you sit in front of your computer in your air conditioned home like the hacker in the video. Dead landscape might be another option. I’m not sure how the processing power of a Nissan compares to a Mars rover 😅 Maybe it needs to drive very slow to be able to keep up with the incoming sensor data, or due to delay…

Wow, super impressive. Now we need a live video feed from some forward facing camera to give some FPV perspective and a gamepad. And with some more clever hacks, the Leaf could become something like a Mars rover.

This would be better suited in some casual ranting community. Or one concerned with tech bros. I think it’s completely off topic here.

Hmm, interesting. But we all have different experiences anyway. I believe my mom’s computer “broke” twice in the last two years during some major Windows updates. One time some service pack broke a lot of printers for quite a while and she was affected as well. I don’t remember what the second incident was, since I didn’t fix it, but it also required manual intervention. And she doesn’t even do a lot with the thing except office stuff, documents and mails, so I doubt she was at fault.

I certainly also had stuff break on Linux, but it’s been kind of quiet the last years. But I’m kind of the wrong person to judge since I currently don’t take part in everyday Windows use. At least not when I get to decide and maintain the computer. But I feel it has improved as well. There has been a time where I had to install my gaming windows several times because the order in which I installed all the drivers mattered for some reason. It got cluttered and slower over time so I had to reinstall it during the lifetime of a computer. And I had friends infected with trojans and cryptojacking malware every other month or so. Back then I had a very comfortable life full of hubris with my Linux on the desktop. Granted, it needed more fiddling at that time, but that was acceptable. But times have changed and everything got better and it’s nothing like that anymore. And for a long time now.

Unpopular opinion, but I install Linux on my computers and they just work for like 5 years straight, with me spending exactly 0 hours each day fixing anything. Whereas I fix other peoples stupid printer issues and Windows becoming incompatible with the hardware or some nasty messages from some antivirus or strange software, multiple times a year…

I see however how some disgrunteled people would write something like this.