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You never had any points

Wrong.

and lied whenever I brought any up

Also wrong.

avoid answering my question on why they did that

Wow, wrong again. And again. And again.

You lied, even in face of photo evidence

Wrong too.

It’s dishonest, and is why there’s no point in arguing with points you raise because you won’t take any response seriously.

Cute grandstanding.

I’ve answered your question and invited you to respond to that answer several times now. But you’ve just continued to dodge. But sure, you’re the pinnacle of serious, honest debate.

Well you also ignored mine to fixate on which bullets were bolded, so there’s that! Big day!

You know what, you’re so hungry for it, I’ll concede this point. You were right, it should have been “your” not “you’re” those were were the ones that were highlighted.

I’ll put a little trophy right next to your username :)

Shows the bolding plain as day.

Sure does! And the bullet you mentioned about IMF, NATO, etc has no bolding. Even in the source!

Why this, the equivalent of me saying you made a typo, is the hill you want to die on is becoming clearer by the moment. :)

I mean, I already told you, you’re wrong about the bolding. I say you’re lying, you say I’m lying, why keep debating it? It was a throwaway jab.

Unless of course that’s literally the last and final straw you have to grasp at.

So this is really all you have under the surface? Latch on to a throwaway when you can’t argue with the substance?

For the audience: Lemmy World didn’t want to federate with an instance of loud and proud Leftist shitposters, despite them pinky-swearing to play nice while achieving their goal of dismantling western propaganda on the instance and continuing their war on Liberals in the fediverse.

Cowbee says this is because Lemmy World hates Communists, not just communities that are obsessed with their political ideology, shitpost and “dunk” all day, and feel a sense of duty to purge Lemmy World of its evil politics and replace them with their own.

Let’s try this again:

Why did hexbear include it in their announcement? Why highlight an ideology they want to target while specifically telling their userbase, who they acknowledge are trolls, to try and play nice during the propaganda war on this new (to them) instance? Could it be that they are manufacturing an archetype of the average Lemmy World user?

Why would Lemmy World admins want to sign up for that? And why do you keep pretending that they just wanted to federate and be chill?

the line about the left wanting to dismantle the IMF, NATO, etc

Literally nothing in that line is bolded. Maybe get your eyes checked?

Or I’m right, and you do lie about things you post for some reason.

In both cases it’s clear you’re sealioning

I thought you might not know what that meant, but now I know you don’t.

Notice you have nothing to say about the actual meat of what I said though. And we all know why that is.

They actually didn’t bold it lol. But let’s assume you meant “include”.

Why did hexbear include it in their announcement? Why highlight an ideology they want to target while specifically telling their userbase, who they acknowledge are trolls, to try and play nice during the propaganda war on this new (to them) instance? Could it be that they are manufacturing an archetype of the average Lemmy World user?

Why would Lemmy World admins want to sign up for that? And why do you keep pretending that they just wanted to federate and be chill?

They listed stances common to communists

That’s probably true – quite a few things in those quotes

as an example of what to defederate from

This is the lie.

If they really had a problem with this, then people that did the same on their instance would not be as Cowbee has pointed out

But neither of you have sourced it. You just feel like it’s true.

Hexbear admins: "We plan to federate with Lemmy World for the express purpose of dismantling their western propaganda. We intend to continue our war against Liberals in the fediverse while we’re there. But no brigades. We totally promise.

Despite openly acknowledging that our typical behavior is to ‘dunk on dirtbag libs’, and to do hilarious trolling, we will try to engage using informed rhetoric and sources."

Lemmy World admins: “That sounds terrible. No thanks.”

Cowbee: “Lemmy World admins secretly hate Communists. Look at what they bolded!”

Am I missing anything? I can source anything in there you think isn’t true.

Accuses me of sealioning while giving cover to a blatant liar. Good stuff.

Again: I asked for you to quote them saying they were defederating because hexbear users have stances common to communists.

What you gave me was your interpretation of why they bolded some text.

The Lemmy.world admins manufactured the idea of Hexbear users intentionally brigading lemmy.world threads before they even federated, choosing to pre-emptively defederate, and directly cited ideological differences as the reason.

Quote it. Your evidence so far is “they’re lying”.

For the first, it’s saying exactly what I said, that it’s encouraging users that do choose to engage to do so with professionalism.

Propaganda wars and professionalism are not mutually exclusive. Nice try.

For the latter, it isn’t a statement of intent, but a description of what is actually going on, a struggle between liberalism and leftism. There are prominent brigaders and drama farmers on .world, sh.itjust.works, piefed.world, etc that engage in ideological propagandizing against leftists, just like there are leftists that do so against right-wingers. This isn’t a command to Hexbear users to go out and disseminate spooky scary leftist ideology, but a description of what already exists.

You don’t get dizzy from so much spinning?

I mean, by that logic, Lemmy World admins never specifically stated that they were defederating because of people holding viewpoints they don’t like. You want to have it both ways so bad it’s disgusting.

Maybe these tactics actually work in Communist spaces? That would explain a lot…

You misrepresented the post,

“No u”

Buddy – I quoted it. Stop lying.

“Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda. Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated.”

“I can assure you there will be no lemmygrad brigades, that energy would be better funneled into the current war against liberalism on the wider fediverse.”

I mean, it’s obvious why you’re lying. I just didn’t expect you to lean right into the whole “there is no war in Ba Sing Se” vibe.

Me: posts direct quotes about waging a propaganda war

You: They never said they were going to wage a propaganda war.

Why are you just straight up lying?

Not sure why you would post the source and then lie about what it says:

• “Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda. Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated.”
• “The West’s role in the world, through organizations such as NATO, the IMF, and the World Bank - among many others - are deeply harmful to the billions of people living both inside and outside of their imperial core.”
• “These organizations constitute the modern imperial order, with the United States at its heart - we are not fooled by the term “rules-based international order.” It is in the Left’s interest for these organizations to be demolished. When and how this will occur, and what precisely comes after, is the cause of great debate and discussion on this site, but it is necessary for a better world.”

“I can assure you there will be no lemmygrad brigades, that energy would be better funneled into the current war against liberalism on the wider fediverse.”

“All loyal, honest, active and upright Communists must unite to oppose the liberal tendencies shown by certain people among us, and set them on the right path. This is one of the tasks on our ideological front.”

At least you’re open about being a hypocrite though, when it comes to banning people for just “having stances”