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  • Ok, but other than just making assumptions, we have no evidence that the UK did even that here.

    My main point is that OP seems to think that trying defend troops already stationed in the region (whether they should be there or not) counts as being part of this attack. Which it really doesn’t. As far as I know, American planes didn’t even get to take off from any UK bases.

    The UK government/military has done plenty of heinous shit over the years, not least Iraq. I’m not pretending otherwise - but on this one, so far, it doesn’t seem like they’ve really done anything.

    They haven’t condemned it either, of course, but from what we know so far, it’s simply factually incorrect to say the UK joined in on this particular attack.

    I think defense is part of offense

    It certainly can be. But it can also just be defence - if they’re sitting there with Iranian missiles heading at them, it’s hardly surprising or unreasonable for them to try and intercept and prevent.



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  • How is that joining with what the US and Israel did?

    It’s protecting British personnel from any attacks that may come as a response to the US/Israel action.

    But the statement explicitly says “The United Kingdom played no role in these strikes.”

    Starmer is also catching criticism from the Conservatives and Reform because the UK hasn’t been involved

    On the UK 's response to the US-Israeli strikes on Iran, shadow foreign secretary Dame Priti Patel told the BBC she found it “absolutely astonishing” Sir Keir had not been more proactive in its support.

    And from here

    Nigel Farage, leader of Reform UK, wrote on X: “The Prime Minister needs to change his mind on the use of our military bases and back the Americans in this vital fight against Iran!”

    Meanwhile Emily Thornberry, a senior Labour MP and often critic of Starmer said:

    "I am pleased to see the UK is not involved in these strikes on Iran. They are ill-advised and illegal.


  • Might make more of a statement to simply remove the US flag and have nothing there.

    Replacing it with something else makes it look like you’ve chosen a cause in preference to the USA.

    Removing it simply says that you are no longer showing support for the US, with no other message. Also less likely to make you a target.