Sure but when they actively decide to break the law and the rights of millions people, they are criminals or part of a criminal Enterprise and you should be on trail. The people in position of power, choose to break the law because of profit motivation, of course they shouldn’t keep the money because it was made illegally.

Why would they care about the consequences of fines, when they themselves don’t have to pay it, they can just cash out and not lose a cent, its the company that gets fined.

Fuck em, they should face several years of prison and lose the right to run a business or having a position of power, for gross violations of human rights and shouldn’t be trusted to hold power.

What stops Nvidia, intel or whatever to build the same kind of privacy violating technology directly in the hardware. I don’t even know how our phones are even allowed to collect all the data that they do, what are you going to do in the future when every piece of electronics you buy, is collecting data. You wouldn’t even need internet, they’ll just send it to the nearest 5g tower.

In 5 - 10 years, we’ll live in the era of mass surveillance (for your safety of course). AI combined with all the data available, will make the world a living hell for regular people. 1984 will no longer be science fiction, because we elect self serving clowns, total morons that aren’t capable of doing anything because they are starstruck by rich people and tech bros.

I always wonder, how you can be fined hundreds of millions of dollars for breaking a law or multiple, but no one will go to prison. How is it not a serious crime to break peoples right to privacy and personal integrity on a massive scale like that.

If no one is jailed for doing it, it will never stopped they will just try to lobby to change the laws. They knowingly are breaking the law, but it’s only fines so they don’t give a shit, because they are also lobbying to change those laws…

What a bunch of idiots for politicians, they let these corporation walk all over our rights.

Don’t live in the US, but in Sweden almost all WCs are gender neutral.

But the scenario is a cis gender male, walking in to a bathroom where he doesn’t belong. And you ask what is stopping him, well in the world where someone is asking you what gender you are, to allow you to go the bathroom; I guess that will be stopping you.

It’s a made up scenario

That is the scenario…

How about it’s not your fault that there isn’t a alternative to a more eco friendly product, because it’s the politicians fault, we elect politician’s and they have almost all of them a green Policy. But that’s just on paper, they will really never do anything that hurt the economy and corporate profit. We vote on policy and they won’t implement it, the only thing you are responsible for is holding your politicians to account, but yeah keep blaming yourself for the shit that you have no control over and live in apathy

Arch Linux has by far the best community, the support wiki is the most useful wiki to Linux there is, it basically covers everything. Mad props to the arch Linux community.

I don’t think Linux caters to the casual crowd, maybe in the distant future, because it takes a lot of effort to create a good user experience, those resources are not available to distro makers.

In the PC world you have some different setups of devices, apple has it a bit easier they explicitly choose the hardware that they want to Support.

Also casual people have a hard time connecting a printer to their computer or fixing the wireless wifi.

I can’t imagine them fixing anything via the terminal. My SOs runs Manjaro and she is like that, but I usually fix her laptop when she has issued.

I love Linux for what it is, this toy for a developer that can automate and customize stuff relatively simple, with a large opinionated community.

I would instead rather focus on those thing, than seeing Linux trying to compete with windows/Mac.

Mostly first Linux users will download Ubuntu, latest release, and I’ve not used a more bug ridden OS in my life. Everyday there was a new bug that made me have to hard reset my computer (mind you this is 24.0.4 noble). Display was grey after login, didn’t want to login, laptop screen doesn’t wake up, Wayland crashes and doesn’t start backup. And that is the bugs that forced me to hard reset my laptop, then we have a whole slew of other bugs.

I mean some new getting recommend Ubuntu will have a horrible experience, and most of them do

Stop putting words in my mouth then, you are just trying to force me into a corner, where you feel comfortable arguing from. The world isn’t a binary place

Are you born this way or are you chosing to be this way?

Not that often, but mostly to socialize with friends, 8 bucks for coffee is to much, I avoid those places and go to places where it is about 2€ and spend some on a piece of cake.

But yeah, some people are not that responsible with their money and are willing to buy a coffee for 8$.

No I want the OS that I use and my server to be less prone to security flaws. If you want to call that write rust or gtfo, so be it. But that is your words not mine, I’m more concerned with security

Making coffe at home is always cheaper, that why it’s attractive to sell coffee, I’m guessing that a coffee place buys their coffe cheaper than you, but they pay rent, staff, other bills and take the risk of owning a business.

And the price of coffe has high correlation with it’s availability. No one wants to walk a mile outside of the city center to buy a coffe on their way to work even if it’s 80% price difference, and that is what allowed them to sell cheap coffee for higher prices. But there’s more to it than that, you have different variants of coffee, some like to pay a lite premium to get a more exclusive one etc etc, there is probably a whole science about coffee pricing.

There’s is no other way, C is a security issue - do you understand?

What is so hard to understand, C Is a fucking security issues?

Dude what are you on about, there is no rust programmer that want to teach fucking rust to anyone who doesn’t want learn…

This has nothing to do with C vs Rust, this has to do with security and enabling more people to develop stuff for Linux.

These so called kernel maintainers you see in the conference are only mainting the parts that they use for their filesystem, they are mainting the API, they are paid by companies who have sold support for ext4, xfs or brtfs etc… . Of course they don’t want to make their jobs any harder by learning a new language.

And of course they obfuscate the API with random naming and undocumented usage, because they want to make it hard for anyone else using trying to use the APIs.

If they don’t want to be part of the improvement, then go do something else. Yes rust is better than C for this, because guess what - there are still CVEs being made, because it’s impossible to catch everything with you eyes.

No shit

That was what he was talking about at the conference, he literally asked for help about how things work, so he could write better APIs that they are more comfortable using.

But the response was we don’t want to write rust.

What compromise? Half code should be in rust?

What does this even have to do with rust developers, The language rust gives us the ability to have more compile time checks, and why is that a bad thing. Do you like security issues in your OS because some dev forgot to handle pointers correctly?

There’s no solution, they need not only to accept that rust is going to be part of the kernel but also that it’s a good thing. Otherwise how do you cooperate efficiently.

And also if they are so big brained, should be easy to learn rust then, I mean I’m pretty small brained and I know rust.