My first thought too. But if he does not end up buying it, Linux support will be broken in a year anyway. Unless someone else steps in and continues.

I don’t speak for others.

The desktop is only one part of possible way of utilizing Linux. If you only count the desktop, then say you are only talking about the desktop. Linux is in every Android smartphone. Apps being compatible is not a thing because of the Kernel, but the entire operating system. Just because your end user software from Android phone does not run native on your “random” desktop Linux operating system, does not mean both wouldn’t use Linux as its core.

you are stuck on technicalities and the literal definition of the word “linux”

So you are? The entire topic is about the definition and counting what Linux is. Even the reply to what I replied is addressing this topic. What do you even mean by “literal definition”? What definition are you talking about, an imaginary definition the way you want it to define? Linux is the Kernel. And a distribution is the operating system around the Kernel, to access the functionality the Kernel provides and connects to the hardware.

What do you mean “always Like this”? I don’t know who you are. Linux is just the Kernel. What bigger picture are you talking about???

What part of the steam machine page shows a controller as the default mode?

What do you mean? The entire operating system of it starts up in Game Mode, which is primarily designed and used by game controller. The same as on the Steam Deck. Steam Machine is primarily a console like experience, that’s the point of it. You can switch to desktop mode or you can install games that require keyboard or mouse, just like on a docked Steam Deck in example (or on a Xbox console…). But you can’t expect this as the default.

Now at this point it is a bit speculation how this will pan out. We don’t know how Valve will handle this. I can definitely see your argumentation and it makes sense. But at the moment this is still an open question. BTW I don’t trust IGN much…

Where did I say the controller should be the only way to use it? I said “the default”. Like a game console or handheld, as a developer and player you can expect the standard controller to be supported, for games that are perfectly playable. On console you can even plug in a keyboard, but you can’t expect anyone to have it. But you can expect a controller.

Ah I see, just a misunderstanding. Well then the balance of the force is restored. :D

Work smart and hard. :-)

Why do you want it to fail? I’m so happy that Sega is one of the companies who does games that are not mainstream boring stuff. In fact, this is something I would expect from a small indie team. Shouldn’t we celebrate that and support?

They can base their pixel art off ai art, that resembles pixel art. Would still count as “no ai in the game” I guess.

Not a single pixel. So they will not generate a single pixel, but multiple pixels?

It doesn’t come with a controller either.

Is this official information or a prediction?

But this is supposed to be a console like all in one device. If the Steam verified program gives a game verified badge for a keyboard centric game, and it does not come with keyboard and mouse, then its simply wrong rated. And I think the verified rating should take this into account and do not verify such games. That is my point I was making.

What do you mean e-waste keyboards?

Some games do not run (or did not in the past) due to codec issues too. Besides anticheat off course.

And then some games for mysterious reasons do not run, like the first Batman Arkham City, but all the following Batman games run on the Steam Deck. The game itself runs on Linux PCs, so its a mystery to me. A quick research shows it would launch with the launch option added -windowed, but I digress.

There are even games that run fine on Steam Deck, which has the rating of not running at all.

Verified for that should no longer be tied to a low resolution (text scaling) or input schema (controller input, touch input.)

Then what’s the point of verifying it for the hardware? The controller should definitely be taken into account, if it comes with a default controller and if the games recommended way to play is a controller. This is meant to be a console like experience, and it probably does not come with a keyboard by default.

Here is a video about this subject: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=hymd3Xc7cCU This channel (SavvyNik) often directly reads and shows parts of the original mailing list source, and if available the relevant part of the interview in video form.

Maybe its not a bad idea to experiment with the tools that lot of people do, so it might help understanding what code it produces. That might be not his original goal, but its a nice side effect I guess.

This sucks. I was waiting for the Nexus Mods to support more games. It was the one hope of having an easy tool to mod games in Linux. The new https://www.nexusmods.com/about/vortex does not support Linux and they will look how the Linux support could look like in the future… which does not sound promising.