• slickgoat@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    All I can say that the country’s attention span is tightly limited. Focus on reform right now you will take the air out of a wafer thin possibility of a Dem win. If you fail, how much reform are you going to get from a Trump government? About a cap full of warm piss worth.

    Yes, reform is badly needed. Of course it is, but the house is actually on fire right now. Can’t you see that? Flames and everything, with the supreme court, project 2025 and a Trump administration about to possibly enact martial law? A protracted conversation about complex administrative, legal and electoral changes - all of which will be challenged and lied about by the other side, will bring tears.

    Anyway I’m done with the argument. But if it all goes pearshape, the reform purest will be the ones who will have detailed the tottering election.

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      2 months ago

      Of course I see that! The house is on fire precisely because Democrats have failed to reform. If I might stretch your analogy, there are mad arsonists running around the house throwing molotov cocktails everywhere. Maybe we need to address the question of why these fires keep happening.

      You “establishment purists” are insufferable.

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        2 months ago

        Ok, start your reform with all fifty states, because they are the ones who control Federal elections. Yes, reform the red states too. Should be easy. Go ahead, knock yourselves out. Enjoy. Let the house burn to the ground while you run around getting petitions signed which will be ignored by the state assemblies.

        Jebus Christo…

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          2 months ago

          What the fuck are you talking about? All I’ve called for here is an open convention. Fuck, even Obama is behind that. It’s going to be a farce since the fix is in for Kamala, but a farce is better than nothing. Fuckin-a it’s amazing how some people think demanding a sliver of Democracy from the party literally running on saving Democracy is somehow a radical purist position.

          And no, the states don’t control primaries. They have authority to do a lot, but almost everything wrong with the Democratic primary system is directly addressable by the Democratic party(s) themselves. But that’s pretty irrelevant this cycle because the Democrats already stole that from us. The reform stance is that it be acknowledged and addressed for next time. An open convention is a tiny step in that direction.

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            2 months ago

            By all means, have your convention. Who gives a fuck? Talkfests are what’s it about.

            I would say you might lead with the convention point up front. “Remorm” as a word is mighty board.

            Anyway, chill. This is a long road.

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              2 months ago

              I’m pretty certain that “remorm” isn’t a word at all. If you mean “reform” then you might want to look back at who brought that word into the conversation. Keep your mighty board.