• astanix@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Sure, let’s discuss.

    She was in the bike lane and a dumpster was blocking it.

    She merged into the lane next to hers to pass the dumpster.

    She got hit by a dump truck and died.

    In which part of this was she an idiot?

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      4 months ago

      Mostly the part involving riding in front of a dump truck. (The discussion part I was hoping for was more about why we don’t actually blame the direct cause instead of a fucking dumpster)

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        4 months ago

        You wanted us to discuss “idiotic women” who are hurting our precious construction workers by dying? Did you want us to placate you? You’re speaking ill of the recently dead, which obviously isn’t a problem to you. I hope someone cares when you go, but from this, I don’t see that happening.

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            If I legally step into the road and a truck strikes and kills me I can be both right and dead. That’s why wrongful death suits are a thing.

            This is a very weak argument. I don’t even own a bike and that’s obvious to me.

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              4 months ago

              Who said anything about legally? She changed lanes when unsafe to do so and got hit. Why are people trying to pretend she was just rear ended out of the blue?

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                You don’t know she was hit as a result of changing lanes, it’s equally possible the truck driver, due to their elevated seat, didn’t see the bike and simply ran her over.

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                4 months ago

                Don’t put words in my mouth. I addressed the scenario you posed which said nothing of legality or not. Generally a pedestrian has right of way so legal would be the default assumption.

                To the point of your post, I don’t know if she was legal or not. I haven’t read the article but obviously I’ll have to. Did she hand signal? Do we have video of that or are we taking the driver’s word for that? An unsafe lane change would put her at fault.

                Edit: absolutely nothing in the article to indicate she failed to signal.

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        4 months ago

        That isn’t idiotic. In all places without a bike lane except prohibited freeways it is the norm. The truck driver would be faulted for rear ending, and not being vigilant enough to foresee the bicyclist moving into the lane.

        Driving vehicles does not give you any preferential treatment. In fact, pedestrians get right of way and bicycles are treated as vehicles expected to follow all traffic laws. That even means you could get stuck behind a cyclist on a narrow road and be required to follow behind them safely the whole time with zero right to get angry.

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          4 months ago

          Changing lanes without due care and attention or when unsafe is a fine and a factor in determining fault for a reason. You know this. It’s the justification for your last paragraph.

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            4 months ago

            Changing lanes without due care

            Technically correct, but does not apply. The description given does not state the lane merge was unsafe.