Quite the unpopular opinion, but I just wanted to post this to show the silent majority that we still exist. We have reached a point where voicing criticism against wayland is treated like the worst thing ever and leads you to being censored and what not. The red hat funded multi year long shill campaign has proven to be quite successful. Now do the same for immutable distros and every new buzzword that restricts your ability to make changes to your system and the long term plan of completely sabotaging the linux desktop will finally come true. That is all.

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      I recognize my inability to contribute. What I do understand is if red hat truly cared a tiny bit about desktop linux they would have intervened in the 18 year history of wayland. They’re either afraid of acknowledging the fact that 18 years went down the drain or they are doing it on purpose. Mostly the latter.

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        The gist you’ve shared about the problems with Wayland, that’s one of the worst things I’ve read. At least bring something good on the table to debate.

        Here, let me help you - Wayland Isn’t Going to Save The Linux Desktop. Now this article is way better than the nonsense you’ve shared earlier.

        I’m not informed much about the technicalities of Wayland, but it looks be the the same as Rust, with their vague specifications.

        I don’t like Flatpak. I’m not really opposed to using systemd, but I don’t like the attitude of Lennart Poettering, especially with what he did to PulseAudio. However, if I had a choice, I’d prefer another init system. I wanted reproducibility and ephemeral environment. I wanted deterministic builds and meta-distribution. And that’s exactly what I did - I use Guix now.

        If you don’t like Wayland, you need to fix the legacy parts in X11, you need to read whitepapers on modern drop-in replacement techniques written by postgrads and PhD folks, you need to bring other like-minded folks to work with you. That’s your responsibility. Your complaining won’t fix this “corporate” takeover.

        Btw, there’s the Arcan display protocol if you don’t like Wayland. You might want to fund the dev.