reason: Admitting to being a troll: “I’m an agent of chaos.”
Absolutely the limpest reason to temp ban someone from a shitposting community. From the context it was obviously an offhanded joke, not an actual admission of someone trying to disrupt the community.
What they said was “I’m a shitlord”
- Then the mods should be honest about why he’s being banned in the modlog.
- Him (charitably) being an overzealous meanie in defense of an honest brand of feminism does not make him a shitlord.
- Sometimes people need to be dunked on for both their own good and the good of the community, obviously myself included. A perfectly appropriate venue for some gentle dunking is a shitposting community.
It’s a shame that the thread got locked. It was getting heated, but IMO that’s a good sign that what you’re talking about actually needs to be debated.
Him being an overzealous meanie in defense of
an honest brand of feminismassuming anyone who says men should be treated better is expecting complete deference from women does not make him a shitlord.Perhaps not, but saying the words “I am a shitlord” does.
The mods were actually very clear about it in the thread. Pinned comment.
imho not a good enough reason. But hey I’m not a mod.
That’s pretty funny actually.
From the context it was obviously an offhanded joke,
Ah so that’s the thread in question. Was wondering what post it was and honestly, I suspected that one of being rage bait.
The original image seemed like it was missing context so I figured OP was gonna come swinging in later against any comments saying it was extreme with the additional context.
And yes, out of context I thought it was a bit extreme. I don’t necessarily agree with what the first person in the image said although that’s a complex topic that deserves a much lengthier discussion, but just randomly having someone tell them that they’re a creep who deserves to be tased is fairly extreme without any additional context. Keep in mind, I have no idea who the individual is or what they’ve done.
The fuckin essays that generated. Jesus christ. We’re failures as shitposters when a shitpost generates that much drama.
We’re failures as shitposters when a shitpost generates that much drama
Hard disagree lol, I love when a shitpost actually gets people to debate about important things. So many people would just never think about that stuff otherwise.
Yeah. That’s literally one of the main cores of shitpost culture, obviously trolling is just as foundational, but derailing or sparking discussion is another main ingredient of what makes a shitpost a shitpost.
Wikipedia:
In Internet culture, shitposting or trashposting is the act of using an online forum or social media page to post content that is of “aggressively, ironically, and trollishly poor quality”.Shitposts are generally intentionally designed to derail discussions or cause the biggest reaction with the least effort.
KnowYourMeme:
“Shitposting” is an Internet slang term describing a range of user misbehaviors and rhetoric on forums and message boards that are intended to derail a conversation off-topic, including thread jacking, circlejerking and non-commercial spamming.
Meriam-Webster:
: to post something online (such as a comment, video, or meme) that is deliberately absurd, provocative, or offensive
Urban Dictionary:
A post of little to no sincere insightful substance. Especially a “shit”(low)-effort/quality-post with the sole purpose to confuse, provoke, entertain or otherwise evoke an unproductive reaction. Often exemplified in surreal out-of-context posts.
Digital Cultures:
Shitposting is an internet slang expression, with several varying meanings, depending on the context.
It usually refers to the non-conforming behavior of users, or to the creation of off-topic posts and memes, that are way out of context and serve to push the conversation of its original path.
“Shitposts” are almost always low quality, with little to no concrete value and are mostly made for trolling others.
And this is why Lemmy sucks.
Mods have a stick up their asses even further than Reddit mods do.
The apply rules in a petty zero-tolerance way.
It’s just public, unlike reddit. There have been countless controversies over poor moderation on reddit. On lemmy everyone can see when someone is banned for bullshit reasons and call it out. Don’t mistake awareness for frequency
Excellent point. On reddit you’re just shadowbanned with no explanation.
Okay but you can always make your own shitposting community on your own instance with your own rules if you feel so strongly against the rules. That option simply was not available on R*ddit. The point of Lemmy isn’t that no one abuses their mod and admin powers ever, but that the system is set up so that you can just go to another Lemmy server, which simply was not available on R*ddit if you pissed off the site admins.
Although I personally find Lemmy users nicer and moderation better on average, their character is not the point. It is merely the result of an imperfect but better system than R*ddit.
Okay but you can always make your own shitposting community on your own instance with your own rules if you feel so strongly against the rules. That option simply was not available on R*ddit.
That happened on reddit all the time, minus the instance part. Remember /r/freefolk?
That happened on reddit all the time, minus the instance part. Remember /r/freefolk?
The “instance part” is absolutely huge. If I wanted to, I could go start a /c/lemmyshitpost on SDF Lemmy [1] with a completely new set of rules [2], particularly a set of rules that possibly would violate Lemmy.world’s TOS or possibly even the law in Lemmy.world’s jurisdiction, but not SDF’s or their jurisdiction’s laws.
It’s not a big deal for the average user until the day you run afoul of the server admins.
[1] As of writing this, SDF does not have a /c/lemmyshitpost.
[2] I’m not interested in doing that lol, this is just a hypothetical. I’m annoyed at this most recent decision but nowhere near ready to leave over it.
yeah but when people go to add communities they ignore the little one with 3 followers when there’s a comm with the same name that has 3000.
Is like saying oh you don’t like your local librarians? you’re free to make your own library!
Okay well being free to do something doesn’t magically make it a real option. The truth is whatever comm gets the biggest following first is the one everyone goes to. Are there even any exceptions to that that aren’t entire communities agreeing to move together off instances?
For literally the entire time I have been on lemmy I have heard laments about the centralization of comms on lemmy.world and seen attempts to mitigate it but every pie chart just shows lemmy.world with more of the pie because growing a comm on small servers isn’t simple!
Is like saying oh you don’t like your local librarians? you’re free to make your own library!
I’m probably being pedantic here but you kinda can, e.g. Little Free Libraries, although the reason isn’t “my local librarians suck”, it’s closer to “more libraries please”.
Okay well being free to do something doesn’t magically make it a real option.
Agreed, but I fail to see how, with enough consent from the user base, how moving to another existing server is not an option.
Are there even any exceptions to that that aren’t entire communities agreeing to move together off instances?
I’m not aware of any off the top of my head, but it absolutely does not seem implausible that we could move this community if the need arises. Entire communities moved off of Reddit during the boycott; I don’t see why we can’t do that again within the platform if the need arises. For the most part people are okay with the moderation here, as am I, but the minute that changes people will flee somewhere else.
For literally the entire time I have been on lemmy I have heard laments about the centralization of comms on lemmy.world and seen attempts to mitigate it but every pie chart just shows lemmy.world with more of the pie because growing a comm on small servers isn’t simple!
Hard agree there. I’m not sure how to fix it.
Mods being toxic? Some things never change.
Show me a good mod and I’ll show you an honest politician.
Have you ever modded any community? I’m not perfect, I’m a human being with a life and other responsibilities.
We’re just trying to keep this place civil enough so everyone can enjoy it. Sometimes that means taking action against people detracting from that.
I’m here to help.
I suspect I’ll regret asking, but what is this?
Literal douche bag.
Dude! Wtf?! They just asked a question. Jesus Christ, why so mean?
Some people can’t help it they have to jump at you for asking a question
I’m not sure if you two are serious or not, and that just makes this even better.
Surely we can’t be serious?
I am serious, and don’t call me Shirley.
Weird looking hydration bladder but I’d drink from it.
Free Track Shovel! We all do a lil trolling
In Internet culture, shitposting or trashposting is the act of using an online forum or social media page to post content that is of “aggressively, ironically, and trollishly poor quality”.
Imagine not being allowed to do any trolling in a shitposting community.
Tap for subtlety
There are obviously types of trolling that intentionally disrupt the entire community, but this was nowhere near that.
What’s going on exactly, a user is a agent of chaos but (shrugs)
I’m an agent of shit. I’m the shitnami that’ll wash away your little shithuts from the shitbeach.
Will you wash away the shit apples from the shit tree?
Lemmy clients need to make it easier to find the mod logs for communities and specific mods.
Some sort of shitpostception, gears within gears, and at the center of it all, somehow, Palpatine has returned.
To be fair it was getting pretty toxic… But then again I’m ok with that.
A shit leopard can’t change its spots
Jeez man, people got some PTSD about reddit power mods or something?? Why ya’ll gotta be so shitty to the mods??
That thread was definitely getting toxic af, specifically the troll that posted. I agree with ya’ll saying it makes sense to encourage discussion, esp on topics that’re controversial, but like go read some of that OP’s comments on that thread! They were being shitty to people just to be shitty - I think the mod made the right call for sure.
Even if the mod were off base, no excuse to treat 'em like shit!
I was wondering where that post went, shame on the mods.
How am I supposed to furiously mastrubate to dramatic comments now? This is basically kink shaming.
/s means sarcasm right? Should this be sarcasm? Or was the sarcasm the friends we made along the way?
I have no idea about any of the context but this comment was a delight to read
/s means sex
If you’re too good at your job it makes everyone else look bad.
I think the main reason they should be banned is because their posts are mid
I was going to say, we need a new community /c/midposting but we don’t, really.
I agree with the mods here, that person sounds like a toxic sexist pos
From
Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content.toWelcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content*.*: limitation may applyHey kings, queens, and inbetweens, don’t you ever, and I mean EVER, shitpost in my Christian shitposting community
