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        Considering we have a population of 331,464,948, I would say it’s not lol

        I personally think we’re committing genocide, but I would imagine a sample size that is under 1% of the US population is small

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    • 67% said a ceasefire should only happen if the hostages are released and Hamas is removed from power

    • 83% said October 7 was a terror attack, including 74% of those aged 18-24

    • 80% said they support Israel over Hamas, including 57% of those aged 18-24

    • 69% said Israel was trying to avoid civilian casualties in the Gaza Strip and 66% said Israel was just trying to defend itself

    • 74% said Hamas’s attack was genocidal

    https://harvardharrispoll.com/

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      this is depressing.

      I’m not going to comment on whether or not Hamas’ attack was genocidal, because even if they meant it to be, I just don’t they have the capability. but like… Israel is bombing fucking hospitals and refugee camps inside the strip. That’s not how you go about “avoiding civilian casualties”.

      the only side worth supporting here are the civilians caught in the middle.

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          you’re not wrong.

          but we’re still waiting for proof that Hamas has used a hospital as a base of operations.

          another thing everyone knows: The IDF lies.

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          Israel tells you this and you just take their word for it.

          Al Shifa was supposed to be a Hamas command center. Israel promised us it was a command center, they gave us audio recordings as proof, they had a whole mockup of the suspected underground facilities.

          There wasn’t shit, just a sub basement Israel dug.

          Stop believing Israel.

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    Imagine you, your friends and your family get killed and washed away from your land, and 2/3 of US people don’t believe it’s genocide.

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      Actually 1/3 said it is genocide, 1/3 said it isn’t, and 1/3 said they didn’t know. Also, only1/3 of Americans saying this is a genocide isn’t great, but it does represent a huge shift in opinion in a short time. Both our political parties support Israel, our news media doesn’t cover Palestinians very sympathetically, and our education system tells a very favorable version of Israel’s founding (most Americans don’t even learn about the Nakba). I don’t think criticism of Israel has ever been this mainstream (at least in my lifetime).

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        Actually 1/3 said it is genocide, 1/3 said it isn’t, and 1/3 said they didn’t know

        That means

        1. 1/3 believe it’s genocide
        2. 1/3 believe it’s not
        3. 2/3 do not believe it’s genocide
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        Two wrongs don’t make a right. A county based on abrahamic religion should know that. It just proves that they don’t actually believe in their own religion and only hide behind it whenever it’s convenient for them, like saying anybody who disagrees with them supports Hamas.

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          Which Abrahamic religion are you referring to?

          If anyone injures his neighbor, as he has done it shall be done to him, fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth; whatever injury he has given a person shall be given to him. Whoever kills an animal shall make it good, and whoever kills a person shall be put to death. (Leviticus 24:19-21)

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            What happens if you take both eyes? And the eyes of their family and their neighbors and the people didn’t the street? Is that allowed or?

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              What happens if every single firstborn Egyptian son is killed overnight? Is that evil?

              Religions don’t always give the answers you might expect.

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    I think that shows that this is not the issue that is going to really hurt Biden. What will hurt him is if the economy for the average person hasn’t improved by election day. And I doubt it will. So I sure as fuck hope he doesn’t lose to Trump.

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          No? Half of Democrats believe it’s a genocide, while only 21% believe it’s not. The rest are undecided. This is a big deal, because even if a tenth of the people who believe it’s a genocide decide to stay home that’s enough to lose Biden the election.

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        The bar for plausibility is very low, and rightly so, because the intention is to intervene early and protect civilians. The court will most likely issue an order to stop the fighting for humanitarian reasons. However, it will probably take a couple of years before they make a determination regarding the allegations of genocide.

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          Had to re read this a few times. Civilians are dying. The UN should stop it on humanitarian grounds. But hey, it’s the people calling it a genocide that need to be focused on. 🤔

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          I know this is a troll but just to be clear the role of the ICJ is literally to determine whether Israel’s alleged actions are capable of being covered by the Genocide Convention. Today they decided that this is indeed the case and the measures they announced, as meager as they are, are legally binding.

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            Calling someone names because they disagree with you isn’t helpful to the conversation, if that is indeed why you are here.

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      100% agree that we should use the term with caution and precision. That said, Israel is committing a genocide.