“I will no longer be complicit in genocide [in Gaza]. I am about to engage in an extreme act of protest,” the man apparently said before setting himself alight and repeatedly shouting “Free Palestine!”

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  • Alsephina@lemmy.mlOP
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    4 months ago

    Judging from his posts, his Twitch handle and statements in the live stream, looks like he was an anarchist comrade.

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      Seems weird that an anarchist was a US soldier. Maybe he joined before he came to the political beliefs he held as he burned, or perhaps he came to these beliefs because of what he saw in the army.

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        That happens quite a lot when you recruit teenagers with the promise of tech job skills.

    • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz
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      4 months ago

      Strictly speaking, the protester ended their statements with “FREE PALESTINE! FREE PALESTINE! FREE PALESTINE! FREE PALESTINE! AAAAGGH!!”

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        4 months ago

        Excuse me, what?

        It is incontrovertibly ON TOPIC to point out the fact that his dying words were FREE PALESTINE followed by a scream of DEATH AGONY because he was ON FIRE. His remarks factually DID NOT conclude in the reported way. This is not a joke. It is not crass or insensitive (Whose sensibilities am I supposed to have offended, precisely? More importantly: why the fuck should I care that their feelings are hurt by my pointing out he died screaming his message to the world?), it is factual and relevant. Go back and watch again if you don’t believe me, if you have the courage.

        Your response is what is crass. Shame on you.

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          4 months ago

          Nah i’m with the mods on that one, it came off way too much like you were laughing at them.

          • DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz
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            Well, I’ll be the first to admit it’s very hard to tell what a person’s intent is through text alone. I could have provided more context. I suppose it felt to me like it didn’t need context because it was seared into my brain.

      • SummerIsTooWarm [any]@hexbear.net
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        4 months ago

        To be fair, that post in particular seems to have been locked because it is a repost. This post is older and has quite a bit of engagement. While a quick search in the popular subs reveals that this story seems to be surpressed there, it is not true for r/TheDeprogram. Even if that sub has some problems, this story is none of them.

          • SummerIsTooWarm [any]@hexbear.net
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            Oh, I misunderstood. I thougth that the pic was from the deprogram sub. Thats why I went there and looked it up, because it would be very surprising to see that su censoring something like this.

            Edit: It even says r/pics on the top of the screenshot, either I’m blind or I already forgot the layout of stormfront (or both)

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      Anyone who still visits reddit, how [deleted] is this story over there?

      Very high-vis areas: r/news has a thread that hit 5k comments before it got locked (there’s no pinned comment - I’m guessing they reacted too slowly to justify removing it). It sits around +32k karma. There are several high-level comments providing good historical context in a sympathetic tone. Those comments are recalling the actions of various climate and Vietnam War protestors. r/worldnews is containing the topic to the Israel-Hamas livethread, but it is being mentioned there. r/politics has two posts standing, both at 0 karma.

      Very low-vis areas: r/collapse has a weekly discussion thread that has a top-level comment on it showing strong sympathy, and likewise in the responses. It has +118 karma which would generally put it in the top 10 of the weekly top-level comments, even though it has only been posted for about 8 hours. (These threads average about 650 total comments [i.e., all response levels].) So it’s pretty hot, relatively speaking. The sub mods are transparent and it appears from the logs that the chain/topic has zero moderation activity on it so far. The admins keep a close eye on the sub but maybe not that thread.

      Thank you for creating the torrent.

    • matcha_addict@lemy.lol
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      Using the word “genocide” bans you in r/politics now

      r/worldnews does not even approve the story to be posted

      r/washingtondc locked the post

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        So that is what “politically correct” means when we let the far right define it. If it can’t be mentioned, it doesn’t exist.

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        Wait really? Just using genocide gets you banned in politics? What a bunch of shmeggs. I got banned there years ago because the mods simply went through my post history. I’m still shook with how the narrative and mind of users are tilted towards a very skewed viewpoint.

        Some people believe the user base of reddit is diverse, and they’re getting a healthy view of the world. Unbewknowest to them they find themselves dumbfounded when the world isn’t conforming to what they believe is the majority opinion

      • olivebranch@lemmy.ca
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        r/politics mods are horrific. In the mod log (at the bottom of the screen) you can see they delete posts just because of different opinions.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    The pigs shouting “ON THE GROUND” to a person who is actively burning to death have got to be the finest example of cop brain. Everything’s a threat.

    I kind of wish this troop would have done something like sabotage or leaked Intel like Chelsea Manning, but I’m also not gonna deny the bravery involved. Free Palestine. Death to America.

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    4 months ago

    Sigma balls light himself on fire, beta feel threatened at the realization of their cowardice and powerlessness.

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    4 months ago

    having viewed the video now, i initially found myself surprised i was not more horrified. my best guess as to why is this - what seemed most notable to me was his apparent sanity and intentionality in making this choice. he chose the where and when of his death and intended it to matter.

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      He stopped feeling pain because shock set in about 30 seconds into it, I could get more graphic but that’s about how long it took for his eyes to get to fucked up to close them.

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      I couldn’t believe how long he stayed on his feet after he could no longer scream. Rest in Power Aaron.

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    Law enforcement also drew a gun on the burning man during the incident, according to a report by Task and Purpose.

    When you’re a hammer…

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      I read that and was like “of fucking course they did.” Honestly the next paragraph makes it even worse, IMO.

      Authorities were heard asking the man – “May I help you, sir?” – at first but as soon as he was engulfed in flames they started yelling at him to get down on the ground. They even drew their guns on the burning man before someone pushed them to get fire extinguishers to extinguish the fire.

      Threats of physical violence are the only tool they have in their toolbox. THE ONLY tool.

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        Get on the ground! GET ON THE FUCKING GROUND, NOW!!!

        Okay, now roll! ROLL OVER!!! Good, now the other way!! KEEP ROLLING WHERE I CAN SEE YOU!!!

        “Officer Johnson’s quick actions saved the man’s life today,” said the Commissioner. “We have extensive firearm training for our officers and Johnson was able to apply what he learned to a firebody incident.”

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            4 months ago

            casually j-walks across a non busy street

            https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/california-police-shooting-jaywalking-video-b1806614.html

            Sheriff’s deputies from Orange County fatally shot the man, 42-year-old Kurt Reinhold, amid an altercation in September in San Clemente, California.

            The video, released on Thursday last week, shows two sheriff’s deputies considering whether or not to charge Reinhold with jaywalking, before tackling him to the floor.

            Reports say the sheriff’s deputies were on patrol and were assigned to the homeless outreach team, when the shooting took place.

            One of the deputies says in the video, “Watch this, he’s going to jaywalk,” before asking Reinhold: "Are you going to stop or are we going to have to make you stop?

            "Jaywalking here? That’s ridiculous,” Reinhold adds.

        • lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml
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          I dunno spreading the war to Yemin, Lebanon, heck even Iran sounds pretty smart. Think of all the jobs or something for Average Americans et cetera

      • unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml
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        Threats of physical violence are the only tool they have in their toolbox. THE ONLY tool.

        And actual gun violence. They’re the sniwflakiest and wimpiest of the all, bringing an AK-47 to a civilised discussion and feeling “threatened”.

      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
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        No, but I’m sure you can get shot by police if you have an onion - that’s basically a biological weapon to assault delicate cop eyes.