• Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 days ago

    We want to vote for zero genocide, but our broken two party system has become a horrific trolley problem where the only choices given to us are full genocide and half genocide. So I will vote for half genocide because the trolley will default to full genocide if we don’t.

    Seriously, this is a trolley problem. You have the entire Palestinian population on the track (Trump), but you can pull a switch to move the trolley to only kill half as many (Harris). It sucks and I will never forgive our broken system for forcing me to make such a choice, but until we replace our corrupt system with something better we have to minimize harm in every way we can.

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      3 days ago

      We want to vote for zero genocide

      What I said was that you should not vote for or normalize genocide. You and others apparently disagree.

      So tell me that you think you should support genocide or vote for genocide candidates.

      This dithering is just lying to yourselves and others. In support of genocide.

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                    “Shooting this dog will save the world. Take this gun. Will you shoot it?” Is also a yes or no question, but answering it entertains the notion that shooting the dog will save the world. The correct answer is “put the gun down, you’re acting silly. Killing the dog won’t save the world.”

                    I fucking agree that both candidates are disasters for Palestine. But if you’re really gonna try to challenge that beast, start organising for a grassroots movement to overthrow the entire corrupt bourgeois state to place the means of production in the hands of the proletariat.

                    But you won’t. I know you won’t. So in the meantime, you have to choose your best realistic option: vote. And you also have to be realistic when you vote. A third party candidate would need a genuine miracle to win at this stage, because they need serious momentum early on in the election season to have even a modicum of a chance at winning. And the FPTP system guarantees that only one of the two major parties will win.

                    So you’re left with an imperialist who also wants to shit on their own country, and an imperialist who sort of paternalisticslly wants to “help” their country. Neither are great. Neither are even “good”. But one stinks a little less.