• Sabata11792@kbin.social
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    I been told that if god was 100% proven is real, I would have to bend the knee and love and worship him.

    Fuck that, if he is real I am going to make it my life mission to kill god. He ain’t looking like much of a good guy to me.

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    That we have to have faith to be an atheist. Complete nonsense, of course.

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      Faith and belief are the root of all evil.

      It is obvious if you look at the core definitions:

      • belief is the uncritical acceptance of a premise when no evidence for or against it exists or is immediately available.
      • faith is the uncritical acceptance of a premise despite the existence of evidence that invalidates it.

      Both of these are used to make people ignore reality in favour of fantasies and lies. Because if something was a verifiable fact grounded in reality, it would require neither faith nor belief.

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    That it’s a religion. Except for a few groups, which I find kind of strange, being an atheist is the lack of religion and belief in a god. It’s not a religion or anything like a religion and so often I see atheism discussed by the religious in religious terms l, as a monolith, and other ways that just totally miss the mark.

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      It’s easier to group it up as a religion for information purposes, the amount of atheists are relevant if someone’s researching which religions people believe in.

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        Not parent poster, but I don’t think that’s what they were getting at.

        Atheists are often generalized in the same way one might make generalizations about Catholics; the problem is that, while Catholics share a common set of beliefs and values (generally) based on doctrine and scripture, atheists don’t necessarily have anything in common about their beliefs or values, aside from an absence of theistic belief.

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      If religions and beliefs are like the different broadcast channels you see on TV, you get Atheism when you turn the TV off.

  • TORFdot0@lemmy.world
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    That you are enlightened, not by a phony God’s blessing but by your own intelligence

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    Perhaps that anyone of any religion is not also atheist.

    Anyone in any theology believes in only their deity, but doesn’t believe in the hundreds of other recorded, historical deities.

    Even the theists are atheists.

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      A-the-ism. “A”, lack of/without. “The(o)”, god. At it’s core atheism means that you don’t believe in god, any god. So no, believers can’t be atheists because they believe in at least one god.

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    Looking for an argument on every corner. Especially on the stupidest and most inhumane situations. That’s reserved for Christians.

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    No morality. Eat children. Sleep with your partner when you’re stuck in traffic. The source of all evil. Can’t be trusted. Are always miserable.

    Basically everything religious folks really are under the mask they wear.

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      As a religious person, I will absolutely sleep with your partner while you’re stuck in traffic.

      I love a nap. I’m always sleepy, and if you’re stuck in traffic and I’m bored, imma be sleepin.

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      I hadn’t thought that could be a stuck in traffic activity but I might just go out at rush hour and see what’s up.

      Hey wifey, I’m stuck

  • The Dark Lord ☑️@lemmy.ca
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    If we just hear “the gospel” enough, we’ll come around. In reality, I hear street preachers, and see “Jesus loves you” stickers on street corners, and it turns me off even more.

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      Honestly, as an honestly pretty unspiritual Christian, Street preachers make me unnecessarily angry. Because it feels like they’re just bible bashing and aren’t actually doing anything to further Christianity’s goals, despite the fact they think they are. Individuals can’t win people over by shoving their beliefs down people’s throats.

      I feel like the only people who listen to these guys are people who agree with them. Most people ignore them in my city.

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        I quite like them. And I don’t mind Jehovah’s witnesses. I can ignore or politely send them away without much hassle. But I think it’s nice that they believe they can save people and actively try to do so. If I believed, I hope I would be a good enough person to try to save everyone else, too.

        Of course, this doesn’t apply to people who are trying to force people or demand poor treatment of people with different beliefs. It really depends where it comes from.

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    We don’t know right from wrong because we don’t fear retribution from an almighty.

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      That actually makes me boil, cause i remember the live interview with a religious dude around 2008. In wich he said and i quote “i don’t fear the law of man, i only fear god”, the bastard said it after killing someone in the name of jehova (i don’t even remember if it was only o e victim or more, my monkey brain was just baffled at his response to the question).

      They don’t play with the same social rules at all, and then they rage because “us” r the crazy ones.

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      I’m an atheist, so I get to rape and murder as much as I want. It just happens that that amount is zero.

      I’m also kind to others, purely because doing so makes me feel good. If it also builds up “karma credits” with others, that’s just a nice fringe benefit.

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      Ah, this one always makes me smile. I store it right next to the assumption we haven’t read their holy book, and the assumption we didn’t learn anything good from doing so that we can share as common ground.

      If those are the only assumptions I have to get past, we can friends shortly!

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      I had a coworker a few years ago who was seriously confused how I maintained morality without an imaginary friend threatening to fuck me up for all eternity. Like, he genuinely struggled to compute how it was possible for me to go around not raping and killing people as an atheist, to the extent that the guy was clearly wary around me going forward from that point. Very strange dude. Also weirdly enthusiastic about competitive pistol shooting.

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            I know nothing colloquial in the concept of igtheism. Formally, by its very existence, igtheism proves that atheism can only be conditional - hence it is not even a proper concept.

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              I know that, formally, you can’t lack a belief in a god that isn’t properly defined, and I agree with you that many religions’ gods aren’t properly defined. But I think the colloquially definition of atheist or agnostic could still cover igtheism.

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                As for theists, the gods are equally undefined for atheists/agnostics. For an igtheist, beliefs of atheists/ignostics (or lack of belief) cannot be taken any more seriously than those of theists, until definitions are provided.

                Take an example. There are people who say that god is nothing but merely energy. Can someone call herself an atheist if this is definition of god?

                Sans definition of god, theism/atheism do not make sense.

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        Not OP, but for me it was realising I was dronegender. I could either be an atheist whose identity was valid but not “real” as I conceived it, or I could embrace a religion that said my identity was achievable. That said mind melding with a swarm was possible and I could be who I am in a physical sense and not just a personal one.

        Also I met a god. She’s nice.

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    That anyone outside of the US or the middle east even gives a fuck whether you’re an atheist or not

    That’s weird guys come on

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    That we nessesarly think God does no exists and then start asking us for proof. Atheism means no belief in God, believing there is no God is a subset called “strong atheism”.

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    Answering that question is pointless: I couldn’t give a single solitary flying fuck what a mentally deranged person thinks of any demographic unless it becomes a threat to somebody other than themselves.

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        Honestly, I think a good stereotype that religious people have about athiests is that the average athiest would consider the religious ones to be the “normal people.” Blatantly not true, we view them as willful ignorants, less functional human beings.