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    The intelligence agencies aren’t interested in protecting this country anymore.

    It’s too easy to just suck billionaire cock.

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    Since 9/11, the FBI just wastes resources tricking vulnerable people with terrorism entrapment schemes.

    Before 9/11, it was a lot of drug entrapment schemes, like the one they tried on DeLorean. While they enjoy McCarthy style entrapment of high-profile celebrities and such, they figured out it was better for their careers to go after people without the means to fight the charges. So they convince an innocent (and often mentally disabled) person to participate in a terror attack they’re planning, get them to agree to a plea deal, build a resume of successful convictions, and there’s less public scrutiny when it’s found out the whole thing is just another illegal entrapment.

    Overall, they’re still following the Hoover handbook. Still targeting activists and minorities for illegal surveillance. I’d be shocked if they’ve suddenly decided to stop assassinating or imprisoning those activists they perceive to be a threat.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/19/fbi-surveillance-black-lives-matter-protesters-00097924

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    Just to nitpick, the CIA is more the “topple governments” organization.

    I am sure the FBI is involved, but their operations are primarily internal affairs. It’s like MI5 and MI6 in the UK.

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      It’s like MI5 and MI6 in the UK.

      OOOOohhhh that’s their difference. I never really bothered to check. Did know the difference for CIA and FBI though, but this I somehow thought of less idk

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      The CIA topples foreign governments.

      The FBI topples progressive movements within the US.

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      Yeah…and they’re being threatened too.

      I wonder if they’d ever consider the White House to be a foreign government to topple.

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        When I heard about the targeted moves against the FBI by DOGE, I got to thinking that the FBI is not the sort of organization you want to anger if you have skeletons in your closet. And even if you don’t, they’ll put one there to find.

        But I’m worried we’re already at the point where the entire agency can be discredited (not entirely undeservedly) just because President Cheeto and Supreme President Musk could label any findings as “fake news” and the majority of Americans would take it as fact.

        They could be the SA to whatever SS the Trump admin wants to replace them with (the Proud Boys?)

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      Yeah, this meme is just a glimpse at my external view of the events. To me the CIA, the FBI and those kind of agencies are just lumped together. Appreciated the info tho

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        I mean, that nice and all but it’s just flat out nonsense. That’s not how the two alphabet agencies operate. It’s not a “vibes” based matter of opinion… Understanding how things actually work matters.

        FBI = domestic

        CIA = foreign

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            That’s about as clever a response as I’d expect from someone that doesn’t understand what the FBI does.

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              oh, I’m sorry I don’t know the intricacies of a country I don’t reside in. I hope I haven’t triggered you with my ignorance. Don’t want ya popping a blood vessel

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                I hope I haven’t triggered you with my ignorance. Don’t want ya popping a blood vessel

                Lmao I love it when someone gets mad on the internet and immediately starts accusing everyone else of being mad. You’re projecting on more screens than a Marvel movie right now.

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                  Do I sound mad? I think you’re the one projecting. I’m just worrying about you. Maybe you’d take a small break and drink some water. Can I suppose you’re American? If so, I’m sorry your school system hasn’t been able to teach you about perspective.

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      Oh, yeah, I definitely ain’t supporting their actions this way. It’s just funny seeing a coup happen in public and them doing nothing

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        The people who are doing the coup are aligned with the historical practices of the FBI so it makes perfect sense to me.

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    I think that extends to America generally, all the talk of freedom and equality and now so easily camps are being set up to concentrate undesirable groups of people in and everyone is complying or pretending it’s not happening.

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      I don’t know how much help we can expect from FBI and law enforcement. There was a bill a few years back proposing an investigation to see how deep white supremacy had penetrated law enforcement and the military. EVERY Republican representative voted it down.

      🤔

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        We can expect zero. The FBI has a long history of suppressing the civil rights movement and other progressive causes.

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          Yes but this is not a move to increase civil rights within a still recognisable political system it seems to be the openly declared transition from a democracy to something else via an explorative but expanding coup that is being actively ignored by the sitting powers and wider population.