• cosmicrookie@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    So basically Chinese companies could ship prosucts in parts to neighbouring countries for assembly and they’d be sellable in the USA?

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      10 hours ago

      In theory.
      And it actually probably would be pretty easy to do following US requirements, seeing how lax some of the “Made in USA” labels are:

      Made in USA of Imported Parts
      …the final construction is done in our country, but all or nearly all the parts have been imported from other countries
      Made in USA with Global Components or Global Materials
      …the final product is finished in the United States. There could also be a few or no parts of the product that are made in the US, but the majority are made and imported from foreign countries.
      Assembled in the USA
      …the majority or all of the product is put together in the United States or its territories. …it’s a foreign product, with foreign-made materials that were only Assembled in the United States. -https://www.allamericanmade.com/what-does-made-in-usa-mean/

      But the logistics of funnelling $450 billion worth of parts through somewhere else would be basically impossible.
      …or they could just lie.

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      17 hours ago

      Right! You see, this will increase global manufacturing’s need for oil for all that extra shipping, thus raising the price of oil, so US oil makes us all* rich!

      • “All” meaning all the people already rich from making/selling oil including, and mostly, non-American countries/oil barons. The average person will almost certainly see their overall wealth decrease greatly.
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      20 hours ago

      That depends on how the tariff is written. It may work that way, or the tariffs may also apply to parts of Chinese origin.

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      20 hours ago

      Assembly is not enough.

      It’s not just a tariff, and it’s also not just a single row list of tariffs on countries or products or whatever.

      The tariff tables are multi dimensional. Each product has it’s own table of rates. Besides country and product type, there’s a dimension of how it’s assembled/manufactorered and potentially if it’s part of some sort of special agreements etc.

      “The tariff” is basically a worldwide database of product information.

      There are actually very few products that are fully produced in any one country. This is mostly agricultural or raw ressources. All other products are said to be manufactorered from different countries. The country of origin in that case is the last country in which the product significantly changed value from being manufactorered locally and it requires a facility to do so. Slapping a sticker on something is not enough.

      Anyway, the tariff tables take all that into account. It’s very naive to think you can legally bypass this system simply by leaving a product in your neighbors garden before bringing it home.

      You don’t have to waste your time doing that for fun. Plenty of people in logistics get paid well for doing just that, and if they can’t find the loophole, there is very little chance that you’ll find it described online.

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        20 hours ago

        The country of origin in that case is the last country in which the product significantly changed value from being manufactorered locally and it requires a facility to do so. Slapping a sticker on something is not enough.

        My point is, that there is indeed a significant change, when parts are put together into a product. In the case of almost 150% tariffs, I am sure that this would be an attractive solution.

        I am not looking for a loophole. Just stating the obvious and trying to understand how the USA handles these challenges. Slapping tariffs on countries seems naive, when globalization has intertwined every country into each other. Especially when it comes to trade and production

        • catloaf@lemm.ee
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          19 hours ago

          Believe me, the people who have been doing this work have already found this out. I’m sure you can find a deep dive into how tariffs are calculated if you care to look.