The suspect in the Florida State University shooter, who faces first degree murder charges for killing two and injuring five on Thursday was a member of Charlie Kirk’s Turning Point USA, a fascist youth group around the Republican Party, and is a registered Republican voter in Florida. The 20-year-old suspect, Phoenix Ikner, is the stepson of Leon County Sheriff’s Office Deputy Jessica Ikner, who has been with the department for 18 years.

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    22 hours ago

    These school shootings often lack (but not always) the needed intent in B.

    I don’t think it’s hard to make a case for that in the CEO shooting.

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      That’s fair but the text being OR and not AND means it is vague enough that you could apply it to punching two people as it is “a violent act” which “is intended to” “injure”.

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        That’s not how I read it personally.

        You need to

        Intimidate, injure, or coerce a civilian population;

        AND

        Influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

        OR

        Affect the conduct of government through destruction of property, assassination, murder, kidnapping, or aircraft piracy.

        Notice how the influence part has a very explicit or on the end of it, but the intimidate doesn’t

        If all you had to do was injure someone, and not be trying to influence or alter the conduct of the government through the action, it turns nearly everything violent thing into terrorism.

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                  Do you write lists like “jeff, paul, stacey, or craig” or do you write them as “jeff, or paul, or stacey, or craig”? It makes perfect sense to me, but if you think words that aren’t included in a law are “implied” then good luck pal.

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                    In order to be charged with murder in the 1st degree you must

                    1. Kill someone
                    2. Premeditated the murder OR
                    3. Killed Performed the act while in progress of a felony. (edit: cleaned that up so it wasn’t kill and kill)

                    So yes, you can absolutely write lists like that.

                    Edit: Other obvious examples are instructions to do nearly anything. It’s a list of items, you don’t just choose individual items.