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As someone outside the US, I was told that people were very keen on keeping lots of guns to react in case the government tried to pull this kind of shit. When’s the part where they react?
I’m sarcastic; I know why it isn’t happening, and realistically it would be a terrible thing, but, you know, we’re living in the weirdest time.
A hearing is part of deportation.
Without Due Process it’s literally just human trafficking, which is a felony in every single state.
Without due process Trump would be in jail, so he’s very much aware if it’s importance.
“Cannot give every person it wants to deport a trial” can be freely translated to “nobody would get deported”.
I knew it - to the qons, the Constitution is just something they like to talk about, but don’t really care about.
It literally has too. It’s in the constitution.
We passed that point when we ignored the 14th amendment.
I don’t think you know the meaning of “has to”. The law, including the constitution, isn’t any more “real” than money. It only exists because enough people agree it does and follow it.
The fact people have literally already been deported without trial proves they don’t “have to”.
Trump and his lackeys also figured out that it’s easier to do something illegal and wait for courts to catch up than to try to get greenlighted beforehand
But it takes too loooong!
That’s not the reason they’re avoiding it, the reason is that they can’t be sure that their case will be heard by one of their corrupt justices. They haven’t yet covered all their bases.
All their bases aren’t belong to them.
Main screen turn on !
For example, Greenland, Diego Garcia and Okinawa are all leased.
But the constitution gives me constipation. Currently, the Constitution is just toilet paper under Trump bum.
I can’t follow all of the laws of this country, there’s just simply too many of them
If you only consider the ones that are followed, it’s a bit easier
Then you can’t deport, numb nuts.
How about… We can not give every tax to US that it wants to collect, there is just too many.
Well yeah, why do you think the billionaires don’t pay taxes? Can you imagine counting out all those millions? Just easier to skip them, they give enough as it is already. /s
Impeachment doesn’t require a congressional vote either then
He’s been impeached it didn’t do squat
In each case, he was acquitted on all counts by the Senate. Gotta make it stick.
Oh I thought he got fully convicted but just dabbed, screeched yeet and became president
One impeachment came just as he left the presidency so it switched to a “can you impeach an ex-president?” debate.
He didn’t, it was attempted but never got passed
Edit: I mean he was impeached twice but he got acquitted, I’m not even sure how that is legal cause it shouldn’t.
Republicans blocked any evidence from being presented in the trial, and the Democrats took it lying down which is why he was aquitted.
Underlying that is also they’re scared shitless of his violent cult followers
Impeach is the term for the trial thingy not getting removed.
3 times is the charm… 4 times is also the charm… so is 5 times. Keep impeaching him.
Iirc you need like 3/4 vote to remove from office
Only two thirds of the senate
https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/impeachment.htm
And to start the impeachment trial you just need a normal majority in the House
That seems far more attainable
Just a pull of an index finger.
I thought this was how he was elected.
That’s such a coincidence. Some guillotining could be done without trials too!
“THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”
― Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court
That’s metal af.
*should
Some guillotining should be done without trials too.
Uh oh.
The US CAN, you fucking asswipe. You don’t WANT to.
You are like a petulant child, only caring about what you want, you narcissistic prick.
Holding trial for the millions of people Trump wants to deport runs the very real and obvious possibility that not all the judges will rubber-stamp the deportations. In fact, you might start running into judges who deliberately obstruct the process because they have a visceral disgust for the practice of mass deportation.
Can’t have that, because the goal is to ethnically cleanse the country. Once Trump decides deporting people to El Salvadorian death camps is too difficult / expensive, we’re going to start seeing them spring up all over the interior of the country as well.
Lol.
America the brave is sitting by while a fat, orange felon rapist shits on our Constitution and tanks our economy.
The brave are exercising their freedom to be fucked
Whattt? Is Trump saying that the US of A, the “greatest” country in the world, can’t engage in its secondmost favourite activity which is literally suing people?
Not picking favourites, but the Biden administration, not even the Clinton administration, had this “skill issue”.
Be careful, “greatest” has never been a good match with USA. Never. My ears hurt when I hear that.
In other words, Trump says he can deport anyone he wants without trial.
Better make sure you always have your passport and birth certificate on you. And even then, that might not protect you.
ICE agents don’t know nor care to know how to read, let alone how to ask for a passport.
If you are approached suspiciously by men in black, have your gun at the ready.
Won’t work. That kind of evidence would be presented at a trial. For your average ICE agent, your documentation, and lack of criminal record makes it obvious that you have ties to a powerful street gang who is hiding your crimes.
This is literally what ICE has argued in the past few months.
Yeah. They literally said that that the lack of evidence is actually the evidence, and that it is proof of a hyperintelligent criminal who has lead a life of crime without ever being caught. And that is why they have no criminal records… because they are criminals who haven’t been caught yet!
Better make sure you always have your passport and birth certificate on you.
Won’t save you from an ICE that’s happy to tear them up and deport you anyway. This isn’t a legalist regime. Residential “legality” is just a talking point to justify totalitarianism.
If you believe a piece of paper is going to be a shield against a bunch of thugs with guns, you’re going to be in for a hard and sharp awakening when people you know and love end up on the next round of deportation lists.
You should probably also make sure to have a copy at home in case they take it from you
Better still, avoid travelling in the US and hope the Americans can reclaim their country from Trump and his merry band of fascists.
I haven been to the US since the end of 2019.
I’m a citizen, but live abroad with my wife. I will be visiting my family this fall and I’m so happy my birth certificate is here. I’m totally bringing it with me just to be safe.
Is your wife from a background that could be remotely linked to something “bad” by crazy radicals?
that basically boils down to being from any part of the world that constitutes as Brown, Socialist, Controlled by China, or Controlled by Europe, in the Radical’s view.
She’s not joining me on the trip. We debated about it while Biden was still in office and mainly decided that I’d just be catching up with friends and family and her getting a visa and a plane ticket is too costly and time consuming.
After current events, it was a no brainer.
Well then it can’t deport all the people it wants to.
But at the same time, my faith in the judicial system is… flagging.
And our social contract may be expiring. 🤷♀️
Expiring contract? You got traded to El Salvador for a 3rd round pick in 2048 and cash considerations.
Time to get a new agent for a real contract. Unions won them to begin with, which is why they’re a main target of every authoritarian regime.
It’s done.
BUT… some of the more sane sympathizers are starting to realize the King is insane, and are pushing back. Not saying that’s going to save us peasants. but it’s a sign.
Yeah, the Republic fell a month ago with the first times they ignored the courts and some people seem to think they can give it TV style CPR and get right back to where we were on Jan 18 like nothing ever happened.
Babies, the damage is done. And it’s not even over yet. Place your bets now on 2040 turning the corner back to stability. A lot will come to pass between now and then. That’s 15 years from now. We have passed a generational level of work to rebuild after only 80-some days.
If you don’t already have an actionable plan for what to do next, with defined tripwires of when to do what, you’re very late to the party. Not too late, but late.
Source: career in the developing world. Rome wasn’t built in a day, but it only took one day to sack it it ruin.
They said he was insane the first time around when he called Kim Jong Un ‘rocket man’.
And our social contract may be expiring
It’s been shredded already.
Despite this fact, a lot of us are still holding up our end of the bargain. How do I quit?
You force the people who are breaking the system out.
My faith in the judicial system is the highest it’s been since February.
