Apparently, Ukrainian drones pushed through and started a chain reaction.

Explosions reportedly continued for hours, and authorities evacuated nearby settlements. Initial reports indicate that the site, previously protected by one of Russia’s densest air defense networks, suffered catastrophic damage.

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    Is there a particular reason I only ever see ukraine positive war stuff? And when I see negative ukraine war stuff it’s coming out of trumps mouth?

    No, I don’t follow it religiously.

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      Russia had no significant gains over the last years with half a million casualties (KIA, MIA, lost limbs, war prisoners), the logistics is crumbling — they use donkeys, the economy and demographic are in the toilet but Russia is extremely good at spreading propaganda. So much so that the US admin is parroting it and putting pressure on Ukraine.

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      Just to add, Ukrainians information is remarkably reliant and verifiable, the russian information is kremlin lies, so from the start the russian part is just not very interesing at all.

      Also obviously they both talk about good things for them, classic war propaganda.

      Add in that Ukraine is the (incredible) underdog and here we are.

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      Russia’s apparent war plan involves lots of slow attritional fighting, which isn’t flashy and rarely results in a “Win”. Not to mention we kind of do see the russian equivalent of this attack (Bombing hospitals, shopping malls and power infrastructure) reported on, it’s just not considered a win to kill civilians in the west.

      A view I agree with not only on the basis of valuing peace, life and the safety of noncombatants but also on the basis of it not being an effective way to win a war, e.g Korean war, Vietnam war, or the near leveling of London and large swaths of europe in Ww2. Strategic bombing of civilian assets just makes the people being bombed more likely to fight back and willing to endure higher casualties on the front lines.

      Fun tidbit, this depot explosion was initially claimed to be “Negligence and mishandling of munitions” by the kremlin, which along with “Smoking accident” is basically shorthand for “Was hit by a drone but we don’t want to let our people know that we aren’t able to keep the war away from them”.

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      Basically? Wartime propaganda

      Ukraine has been doing individual, small wins like this and they obviously toot their horn when it happens

      But on a large scale, Ukraine has been slowly losing ground

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      I’d assume because we are allied with Ukraine, and you’d see the opposite in Russia.

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      Mostly since the oligarchs in the western camp wants you to see their propaganda. It would be the other way around if you relocated. But if you really want you can find better sources.

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          Nah , you got internet. Do some work to keep yourself informed. I think it’s funny that this is the line here and at the same time negotiating deal is better for Russia than they suggested themselves multiple times. It’s in the mainstream now so you shouldn’t have any issues finding it. But I’m sure your copium can make the coup regime in ukraine winners here as well lol

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            It’s always the shadiest, most conspiratorial people that refuse to provide sources and say “jUsT gOoGLe iT”.

            Provide sources or you simply will not be taken seriously, and overall look like an embarrassment.

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              Nah not really it’s mostly sad conspiracy people that follow propaganda and take it for facts. Do some work you can do it.

              I’m happy to discuss the fact that the start of the leaked negotiatings are better than what Russia’s demands was before.

              If you don’t believe sure , you will just need to wait until it’s undeniable. But as said I’m sure even if Ukraine was flattened and a nuclear wasteland it would be a win for you somehow.

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                It is not up to us to provide sources to your claim.

                Just admit you don’t have any sources and all of it was bullshit.