• Siegfried@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      I would bet my annual salary that Israeli will never face any consequences for this mess

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        It may take 200 years, but it will happen. Not only because every empire falls, but also because you can’t just get away with bullying your neighbors forever. Someday the wind will turn

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        I’d love to make a history joke about them getting to learn a new lesson every few centuries, but that mere joke itself might legitimize their absolute bullshit claims on the land. Israel was formed in 1948 because of a bunch of segregationist assholes who wanted to fuck with brown people and Russians.

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          It makes sense, if you equivocate the Israeli State with all Israeli people, or even all Jewish people. I don’t, just as I wouldn’t equivocate the Nazi German State with all Germanic peoples the world over.

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            Everyone in this thread: I want Israel shattered, and it’s people cast into the sea!

            Half the Jews on earth: OK, well we’re not going to let that happen to us without a fight. In fact, since you all keep trying, we’re going to take proactive steps to make your goal basically impossible.

            Everyone in this thread: why do you love genocide so much?

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              Us: We hate Nazi Germany! Down with Hitler!

              You: Heil Hitler heil Hitler heil Hitler heil Hitler heil Hitler heil Hitler heil (etc.)

              Us: Why do you love genodice so much?

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              Also it bears repeating, because you’re actively ignoring it, but we’re not calling for the death or Israelis or Jewish people generally, but specifically the fascist state that is commiting crimes against humanity in their name. The insistence that those two are one and the same is just fascist propaganda.

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                For the record, I think Bibi and most of his government belong in prison, and I think Israel (as well as Europe and the Arab states) should pay reparations to all Palestinians who have been permanently displaced from the lands that Israelis have settled in.

                I’m just realistic about arab/islamic nationalism, and how those states treat their ethnic and religious minorities. I also support Kurdish independence for the same reason.

                There is no scenario where Israel doesn’t exist, and Jewish people in the middle east aren’t subjected to exactly the kind of genocide that you’re accusing Israelis of perpetrating.

                If that makes me literally Hitler, then we really don’t have anything to discuss. My side is winning anyway.