“Across these evaluations, researchers looked at a range of outcomes, including use of force, citizen complaints, arrests, and assaults on officers. Four of the body-worn camera programs evaluated were found to have no, limited, or even negative effects.”
“Prosecutors, however, rarely bring cases against the police (Skolnick & Fyfe, 1993), and it remains to be
seen whether this will change much as a result of BWCs. In their study of the use of BWCs in the courts,
Merola et al. (2016) found that nearly all (93.0%) responding prosecutors’ offices in jurisdictions that
use BWCs use them primarily to prosecute citizens. Not surprisingly, 80.0% of responding prosecutors
in Merola et al.’s survey support BWC use by the police, and 63.0% feel cameras will assist prosecutors
more than defense attorneys”
I know that probably no amount of research and evidence will change your mind but those are pretty easy to find so I just leave it here for other people to see.
I can’t tell if you are agreeing with me or not. I just said the real problem is that it’s not used to prosecute police officers enough. Are you disagreeing with me citing one study that said four programs potentially had some negative outcome?
If body cameras are good for police, why do police not want to wear them?
Ok, this part may not be easy to understand. There were looking at use of force, citizen complaints, arrests and assaults on officers. The theory is that thanks to the use of body cams there will be less cases of use of force, less citizen complaints and less assaults on officers. The study says that in some of the evaluated body cam programs they found that those statistics didn’t change or that they got more cases of use of force, citizen complaints and so on. Basically, it’s not clear if the cameras help reduce police violence at all.
The second part (which you ignored) says that the cameras are actually used mostly to prosecute citizens, not police. Basically, thanks to the cameras police can easily prove offenses and convict people. Just like the first article said, police us body cams to surveil and prosecute people. Prosecutors like cameras because they make their job easier. You can deduct from this that police also likes cameras. Your claim that “police does not want to wear cameras” is baseless. There’s probably some opposition at first but once they et used to them it’s just another tool used to oppress people.
Once again, if body cameras help police, why don’t they want them?
If you’d like to talk about the scope and findings of any relevant study, I would be happy to read it. But I’m not really interested in what seems like illogical paraphrasing by journalists.
You know the police have had cameras in their cars and all over the place for decades, right? If they want to wear a body camera, they will always wear a body camera. So I’m not really sure what the argument here is except that we shouldn’t make them?
There’s nothing illogical about it. Police uses body cameras because they do want to use them. Can you think of any law that was passed against police? There were huge protests demanding police reform and nothing happened. The only thing that activists “won” were the body cams. That’s because police and prosecutors find them useful. Sure, police was skeptical at first because the cameras were marketed as tool for accountability but as soon as they realized that they are actually tool for surveillance the adoption moved fast. That’s the whole point the articles I’ve linked make and you find so hard to understand.
The DEA will stop using them because Trump’s administration is incompetent and makes a lot of stupid decisions. Other agencies could stop using them but for now decided against it.
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/research-body-worn-cameras-and-law-enforcement
“Across these evaluations, researchers looked at a range of outcomes, including use of force, citizen complaints, arrests, and assaults on officers. Four of the body-worn camera programs evaluated were found to have no, limited, or even negative effects.”
https://cebcp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/BWCpaperLumetal.pdf
“Prosecutors, however, rarely bring cases against the police (Skolnick & Fyfe, 1993), and it remains to be seen whether this will change much as a result of BWCs. In their study of the use of BWCs in the courts, Merola et al. (2016) found that nearly all (93.0%) responding prosecutors’ offices in jurisdictions that use BWCs use them primarily to prosecute citizens. Not surprisingly, 80.0% of responding prosecutors in Merola et al.’s survey support BWC use by the police, and 63.0% feel cameras will assist prosecutors more than defense attorneys”
I know that probably no amount of research and evidence will change your mind but those are pretty easy to find so I just leave it here for other people to see.
I can’t tell if you are agreeing with me or not. I just said the real problem is that it’s not used to prosecute police officers enough. Are you disagreeing with me citing one study that said four programs potentially had some negative outcome?
If body cameras are good for police, why do police not want to wear them?
Ok, this part may not be easy to understand. There were looking at use of force, citizen complaints, arrests and assaults on officers. The theory is that thanks to the use of body cams there will be less cases of use of force, less citizen complaints and less assaults on officers. The study says that in some of the evaluated body cam programs they found that those statistics didn’t change or that they got more cases of use of force, citizen complaints and so on. Basically, it’s not clear if the cameras help reduce police violence at all.
The second part (which you ignored) says that the cameras are actually used mostly to prosecute citizens, not police. Basically, thanks to the cameras police can easily prove offenses and convict people. Just like the first article said, police us body cams to surveil and prosecute people. Prosecutors like cameras because they make their job easier. You can deduct from this that police also likes cameras. Your claim that “police does not want to wear cameras” is baseless. There’s probably some opposition at first but once they et used to them it’s just another tool used to oppress people.
Once again, if body cameras help police, why don’t they want them?
If you’d like to talk about the scope and findings of any relevant study, I would be happy to read it. But I’m not really interested in what seems like illogical paraphrasing by journalists.
You know the police have had cameras in their cars and all over the place for decades, right? If they want to wear a body camera, they will always wear a body camera. So I’m not really sure what the argument here is except that we shouldn’t make them?
There’s nothing illogical about it. Police uses body cameras because they do want to use them. Can you think of any law that was passed against police? There were huge protests demanding police reform and nothing happened. The only thing that activists “won” were the body cams. That’s because police and prosecutors find them useful. Sure, police was skeptical at first because the cameras were marketed as tool for accountability but as soon as they realized that they are actually tool for surveillance the adoption moved fast. That’s the whole point the articles I’ve linked make and you find so hard to understand.
The DEA will stop using them because Trump’s administration is incompetent and makes a lot of stupid decisions. Other agencies could stop using them but for now decided against it.