And how long do you think a $300-$400 handheld PC is supposed to stay on the cutting edge?
You can already see its ability to play AAA games slipping. It’s an incredibly impressive machine but the days of BG3/cyberpunk/etc. dropping on it and being solid experiences are wrapping up. I’m sure it has several years of viability in store but come on.
Nintendo wiped the floor in the mobile gaming market for decades despite their competitors having beefier specs. The DS lasted for years before we ever got the Switch. Let the Steam Deck mature.
The difference is that nobody’s releasing games specifically made for the Deck. Some are including optimizations to make their games run decently well on it, but it’s not a AAA machine. I bought one knowing this full well and am satisfied playing less demanding games on it, but it’s not going to be playing new demanding games, unlike with dedicated consoles.
The steamdeck has matured and because of its architecture there is no meaningful upgrade or change you can do to it yourself besides storage.
Valve has made it very clear they have no plans to release another one, the OLED was their final refresh of the design. Their focus in that arena is on bringing steamOS to different platforms, perhaps another round of Steam machines, but they have explicitly said they are not taking another crack at mobile hardware right now.
I get you are excited about the steamdeck, I love mine as well. But they have been abundantly clear on this matter. No speculation required
Even if you’re correct, it’s still too early, anyway. That’s my point.
The DS had a seven-year lifespan and the original Switch had eight. Even living room console have an average near decade long lifespan. So, of course Valve isn’t going to throw their money into a second generation.
The DS had countless iterations and refreshes. The Switch was Nintendo’s flagship product. I also never said the steamdeck was useless or done. You know I didn’t, yet you pretend like I’m treating it as if its practically e-waste. I was very specific/nuanced in how I talked about it. I don’t know why this is such an important hill for you to die on but I think I’m being more than fair to the deck.
If I didn’t think I could find good use for the steam deck for at least 5+ years then I wouldn’t have bought one. But like the Xbox Series S it is starting to show some age on more demanding titles. It is just reality, and for many people that’s not really a big deal. But for some it is.
Dude come on why are you making me be so prescriptive? Stop looking for holes and try to infer meaning/understand what I am actually saying. This isn’t a formal debate, you don’t need to score points. We are trying to reach mutual understanding.
Yes it matters in the grand sense of things. I care about the state of the industry and gaming.
It does not matter re: the subject I am talking about, i.e. whether or not the steamdeck is getting older/its AAA capabilities. I am talking about realties, you are trying to make this a discussion about values and developers. This is an assessment of the steamdeck as hardware.
And how long do you think a $300-$400 handheld PC is supposed to stay on the cutting edge?
You can already see its ability to play AAA games slipping. It’s an incredibly impressive machine but the days of BG3/cyberpunk/etc. dropping on it and being solid experiences are wrapping up. I’m sure it has several years of viability in store but come on.
Nintendo wiped the floor in the mobile gaming market for decades despite their competitors having beefier specs. The DS lasted for years before we ever got the Switch. Let the Steam Deck mature.
The difference is that nobody’s releasing games specifically made for the Deck. Some are including optimizations to make their games run decently well on it, but it’s not a AAA machine. I bought one knowing this full well and am satisfied playing less demanding games on it, but it’s not going to be playing new demanding games, unlike with dedicated consoles.
The steamdeck has matured and because of its architecture there is no meaningful upgrade or change you can do to it yourself besides storage.
Valve has made it very clear they have no plans to release another one, the OLED was their final refresh of the design. Their focus in that arena is on bringing steamOS to different platforms, perhaps another round of Steam machines, but they have explicitly said they are not taking another crack at mobile hardware right now.
I get you are excited about the steamdeck, I love mine as well. But they have been abundantly clear on this matter. No speculation required
Even if you’re correct, it’s still too early, anyway. That’s my point.
The DS had a seven-year lifespan and the original Switch had eight. Even living room console have an average near decade long lifespan. So, of course Valve isn’t going to throw their money into a second generation.
The DS had countless iterations and refreshes. The Switch was Nintendo’s flagship product. I also never said the steamdeck was useless or done. You know I didn’t, yet you pretend like I’m treating it as if its practically e-waste. I was very specific/nuanced in how I talked about it. I don’t know why this is such an important hill for you to die on but I think I’m being more than fair to the deck.
If I didn’t think I could find good use for the steam deck for at least 5+ years then I wouldn’t have bought one. But like the Xbox Series S it is starting to show some age on more demanding titles. It is just reality, and for many people that’s not really a big deal. But for some it is.
Sounds like this is more of the fault of the AAA publishers than the console makers.
It doesn’t matter whose fault it is. It’s not about assigning blame.
It fucking does matter. I’m tired of this stupid rat race.
Dude come on why are you making me be so prescriptive? Stop looking for holes and try to infer meaning/understand what I am actually saying. This isn’t a formal debate, you don’t need to score points. We are trying to reach mutual understanding.
Yes it matters in the grand sense of things. I care about the state of the industry and gaming.
It does not matter re: the subject I am talking about, i.e. whether or not the steamdeck is getting older/its AAA capabilities. I am talking about realties, you are trying to make this a discussion about values and developers. This is an assessment of the steamdeck as hardware.