If Elon wants to swap sides we should encourage it. Hell, if Elon wants to make a bid for King as well there’s an argument that we should support it to a specific degree.
You should read up on her history, how she came up, and what she’s done with her wealth so far. You assume she moved today, and hasn’t always been there, and that assumption may be a failed test all its own. Even just reading the article hints at this.
Billionaires have publicists. Forbes itself was basically made to glorify the ultra wealthy. Every last part of her story is sanitized for the public, I think the Walmart family were actually the trail blazers of the practice
A billionaire isn’t a person. They’re an avatar for their wealth. I mean that literally - they are slaves to their own dragon hoard.
Their wealth isn’t real, it’s speculative - so if a Walmart heir gets drunk on video and it goes viral, on paper their whole family loses money on paper. As do the other shareholders…aka, the other billionaires.
And so, they don’t go out in public without careful preparation - instead, the ultra wealthy spend most of their life in places with tight information control. They don’t get to go outside freely, but they can fly across the world on a whim to visit these places
And so, their social circle is made up of people they interact in those places - namely, billionaires who are also sitting on similar ephemeral dragon hoards. Ones that overlap with the other hoards
And that’s why there’s no good billionaires - they’re interdependent. They can’t just wake up and decide to go off script… They’ll be shunned at best, maybe have their wealth cut off, maybe literally put on house arrest or straight up assassinated… It’s not like the law applies to billionaires
Anyways, the point is this:
She’s a fucking dragon. Sometimes dragons are useful, sometimes they’re pointed at your enemies. Sometimes they even do good things
But dragons aren’t persons. They don’t love like people do, they don’t have morals like people do. They don’t walk among us or care if we die horribly.
When a dragon is on your side, no they’re not. Their hoard always comes first
This is a good attitude. The cynicism is well-earned, but ultimately self-defeating. Not all wealthy people are intentionally and actively hostile, and even if they are, sometimes it is effective to turn enemies into allies, maybe just temporary ones, or even just avoid fighting the least rewarding ones at all if it’s not going to cost you anything and lets you combine your forces to focus on the battles that really matter. This is class war, and war calls for strategy. Fight smart and spend our limited resources wisely. Trump and Muskrat are about a million times more direct of a threat to our survival than JB Pritzker or the Waltons. You don’t have to trust any of them, but it’s a strategic blunder to waste time and energy attacking the ones who aren’t attacking us. Don’t depend on them if you don’t have to, but let them try to help, if they can.
It helps when they say they’ll get rid of their billions after death, like Gates recently said. I don’t particularly trust them to actually do that, although his and Buffetts actions do suggest they don’t just want to hoard wealth like an dragon. They like influence too much to prematurely give up that wealth, though.
Worth noting that in the case of Gates at least, he has already given away $100 billion and I think committed another $200 over the next 20 years. There is some sound reasoning too that he shouldn’t just dump it all at once, as it’s harder to track corruption.
He is “donating” to his own charity, where he won’t have to pay a dime in taxes as his children inherit the foundation… it’s a tax and financial trick, don’t be fooled by it. Gates is not our friend.
Even if he donated to other charities, it still wouldn’t be taxed, because the incentive is indeed to donate to charities in the first place. If I was him, I’d do the same because at least I could better track how the money got spent.
Can you show me a dime of that $100 billion already allocated that went to things like improving health systems in Africa, and fighting things like Malaria, AIDS, and Tuberculosis that instead went back to himself or his kids?
Is it being a class traitor though? Maybe she just realizes that her dollars are worth more than rubles for a reason, a reason that is very much now in question.
If anyone should support the rule of law, it’s the billionaires. We should all be on the same side against fascism.
We welcome all bourgeoisie class traitors. Don’t let the endless purity tests get in the way of success.
Not all. elon is still a nazi.
If Elon wants to swap sides we should encourage it. Hell, if Elon wants to make a bid for King as well there’s an argument that we should support it to a specific degree.
Throw a chair into the proverbial ring.
If democrats cozy up to elon, it’s not elon who has changed sides.
kiss the proverbial ring.
You’re delusional. If we get out of this it will be in spite of you reactionaries like you.
Get perspective.
Elon is a nazi.
You can’t wait to do whatever he wants.
I think that’s giving her way too much credit… She’ll never be one of us
But the purity tests are a very real problem. Everyone moving the right direction today gets a pass. When they break off, they’re fair game
Simple as that, we have to care about winning a hell of a lot more
You should read up on her history, how she came up, and what she’s done with her wealth so far. You assume she moved today, and hasn’t always been there, and that assumption may be a failed test all its own. Even just reading the article hints at this.
Billionaires have publicists. Forbes itself was basically made to glorify the ultra wealthy. Every last part of her story is sanitized for the public, I think the Walmart family were actually the trail blazers of the practice
A billionaire isn’t a person. They’re an avatar for their wealth. I mean that literally - they are slaves to their own dragon hoard.
Their wealth isn’t real, it’s speculative - so if a Walmart heir gets drunk on video and it goes viral, on paper their whole family loses money on paper. As do the other shareholders…aka, the other billionaires.
And so, they don’t go out in public without careful preparation - instead, the ultra wealthy spend most of their life in places with tight information control. They don’t get to go outside freely, but they can fly across the world on a whim to visit these places
And so, their social circle is made up of people they interact in those places - namely, billionaires who are also sitting on similar ephemeral dragon hoards. Ones that overlap with the other hoards
And that’s why there’s no good billionaires - they’re interdependent. They can’t just wake up and decide to go off script… They’ll be shunned at best, maybe have their wealth cut off, maybe literally put on house arrest or straight up assassinated… It’s not like the law applies to billionaires
Anyways, the point is this:
She’s a fucking dragon. Sometimes dragons are useful, sometimes they’re pointed at your enemies. Sometimes they even do good things
But dragons aren’t persons. They don’t love like people do, they don’t have morals like people do. They don’t walk among us or care if we die horribly.
When a dragon is on your side, no they’re not. Their hoard always comes first
This is a good attitude. The cynicism is well-earned, but ultimately self-defeating. Not all wealthy people are intentionally and actively hostile, and even if they are, sometimes it is effective to turn enemies into allies, maybe just temporary ones, or even just avoid fighting the least rewarding ones at all if it’s not going to cost you anything and lets you combine your forces to focus on the battles that really matter. This is class war, and war calls for strategy. Fight smart and spend our limited resources wisely. Trump and Muskrat are about a million times more direct of a threat to our survival than JB Pritzker or the Waltons. You don’t have to trust any of them, but it’s a strategic blunder to waste time and energy attacking the ones who aren’t attacking us. Don’t depend on them if you don’t have to, but let them try to help, if they can.
Well said. I’ll take this or Gates or Buffett over the Murdochs, Musks, Kochs, Thiels of the world.
We need all the powerful allies we can get.
It helps when they say they’ll get rid of their billions after death, like Gates recently said. I don’t particularly trust them to actually do that, although his and Buffetts actions do suggest they don’t just want to hoard wealth like an dragon. They like influence too much to prematurely give up that wealth, though.
Worth noting that in the case of Gates at least, he has already given away $100 billion and I think committed another $200 over the next 20 years. There is some sound reasoning too that he shouldn’t just dump it all at once, as it’s harder to track corruption.
He is “donating” to his own charity, where he won’t have to pay a dime in taxes as his children inherit the foundation… it’s a tax and financial trick, don’t be fooled by it. Gates is not our friend.
Even if he donated to other charities, it still wouldn’t be taxed, because the incentive is indeed to donate to charities in the first place. If I was him, I’d do the same because at least I could better track how the money got spent.
Can you show me a dime of that $100 billion already allocated that went to things like improving health systems in Africa, and fighting things like Malaria, AIDS, and Tuberculosis that instead went back to himself or his kids?
The Gates Foundation was expelled from India after they were found to be making women infertile without their knowledge.
They were not found to be making women infertile, and they currently have an office in Delhi, India.
lol bullshit.
That’s not even what I asked.
This is the correct attitude.
Is it being a class traitor though? Maybe she just realizes that her dollars are worth more than rubles for a reason, a reason that is very much now in question.
If anyone should support the rule of law, it’s the billionaires. We should all be on the same side against fascism.