• solrize@lemmy.ml
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    20 hours ago

    If Cuomo runs 3rd party and the Dem establishment supports him, I’m going to fling that back at anyone who tells me to not vote 3rd party in a presidential election, lol.

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      17 hours ago

      I’m going to flip out if the dems support Cuomo and I’m honestly half expecting them to

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        16 hours ago

        I’m fully expecting them to. The Dem leadership supporting an ACTUAL leftist is only SLIGHTLY more likely than them going full fascist and endorsing Curtis Sliwa…

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      8 hours ago

      You’re going to fling that a high-profile and well-recognized (even amongst non-politically engaged voters) organization gave recognition and resources to a third party in a local (not even gubernatorial but) mayoral election as a counter defense for voting for a third party in a presidential election?

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        8 hours ago

        If they do it against a progressive after making a huge deal about not doing it against a centrist? You may like that level of rank hypocrisy.

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          14 minutes ago

          I mean, I’m not even arguing one way or the other. When people argue against voting for a third party in a presidential election, is on the basis that the candidate has absolutely no shot at winning and, at best, will split the vote.

          It has nothing to do with liking or not liking hypocrisy; the basis of their argument is entirely about whether a strategy is viable, not whether they felt good about the decision.

          I assumed that the OP was actually trying to poke holes in the argument but arguing that the Democratic party has backed a third-party candidate in a local election doesn’t negate any of the actual points regarding dissuading voting for a third-party candidate who is without the same resources and does not have the same kind of outreach (such as appearing in debates, etc.) in a presidential election. That’s why, notably, OP had to specify a presidential election: people don’t, generally, argue against voting for third parties at the local level because the visibility of those candidates winning is entirely different.

          Do you get what I mean? It wholly doesn’t engage with the actual reasoning or evidence for the argument so it…wouldn’t mean anything, if you did try to use it as a rebuttal.

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      16 hours ago

      If Cuomo runs 3rd party

      He’s running as an independent, yes.

      and the Dem establishment supports him

      Unless they suddenly fall back in love with Adams or go full Sliwa, they will. They fight the left exactly as much as they accommodate the far right.

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        15 hours ago

        Last I heard, which I think was just hours old, is he’s still considering running as an independent. He hasn’t decided yet. I guess he’s waiting to see how much corporations will pay him?