I want you to explain to me how when Google does it (allowing anyone with an app to report a speed trap - you know where law enforcement is present) it’s legal but when some random developer who’s not a multi-million dollar Corp does it, it’s illegal and obstruction.
In all actuality I believe the point of being able to report a speed trap is to allow people to avoid getting caught breaking the law which amounts to the same thing.
Google maps and Waze can absolutely be used to show where to attack law enforcement. They can also be used to avoid law enforcement. What you’re saying is that you feel like the intention of the app is to break the law in some way but you’ve been given a similar app that does basically the same thing and you back up nothing or what you’ve said with documented case law or even the laws you think this app is breaking. Cool. Good talk.
The main difference is that speed traps and cameras etc are deterrents. They’re supposed to make people slow down, that’s the point of signposting them. Knowing where they are makes people slow down. Their existence is to try and stop people from breaking the law.
Knowing where ICE agents are doesn’t stop people from being in the country illegally.
And yes, again, intent matters. No matter how cute people think they’re being by pretending it’s not meant for X, not everyone is stupid and oblivious enough to fall for it.
There’s one major problem with what you’re saying. It’s that ICE is actively jailing people without giving them due process. As an entity it is assuming guilt which is in direct conflict with the constitution. Because it’s violating the rights of the people it is no longer a government agency acting for the people, and because it’s actively breaking the law it is not protected. If you can’t understand that without due process they can and possibly will arrest you and deport you somewhere regardless of your constitutional right to reside in the US then you are in fact missing the main point of this app and there’s a reason people are down-voting you.
Also, you’re making a lot of assumptions about what the app is for, and still posit no actual proof of your position. You have made an assumption here and when confronted about your opinion based on that assumption you have continued to double down instead of even considering the alternatives.
And speed traps aren’t intended to be a detterant. I don’t know why you think that’s the case but in fact they are set up specifically to catch speeders. The deterrence is a bonus. But a lot of police departments make money for their municipality via speeding tickets. So don’t try to play like we can just ignore this so you can feel like you’ve won.
Are you a lawyer? What law are you citing?
Obstruction of justice, aiding and abetting, to name a few.
I want you to explain to me how when Google does it (allowing anyone with an app to report a speed trap - you know where law enforcement is present) it’s legal but when some random developer who’s not a multi-million dollar Corp does it, it’s illegal and obstruction.
I’ll wait for your list of case law.
Waze and Google maps don’t let you report them for the purpose of helping illegal immigrants avoid law enforcement, or to tell people where to attack.
In all actuality I believe the point of being able to report a speed trap is to allow people to avoid getting caught breaking the law which amounts to the same thing.
Google maps and Waze can absolutely be used to show where to attack law enforcement. They can also be used to avoid law enforcement. What you’re saying is that you feel like the intention of the app is to break the law in some way but you’ve been given a similar app that does basically the same thing and you back up nothing or what you’ve said with documented case law or even the laws you think this app is breaking. Cool. Good talk.
The main difference is that speed traps and cameras etc are deterrents. They’re supposed to make people slow down, that’s the point of signposting them. Knowing where they are makes people slow down. Their existence is to try and stop people from breaking the law.
Knowing where ICE agents are doesn’t stop people from being in the country illegally.
And yes, again, intent matters. No matter how cute people think they’re being by pretending it’s not meant for X, not everyone is stupid and oblivious enough to fall for it.
There’s one major problem with what you’re saying. It’s that ICE is actively jailing people without giving them due process. As an entity it is assuming guilt which is in direct conflict with the constitution. Because it’s violating the rights of the people it is no longer a government agency acting for the people, and because it’s actively breaking the law it is not protected. If you can’t understand that without due process they can and possibly will arrest you and deport you somewhere regardless of your constitutional right to reside in the US then you are in fact missing the main point of this app and there’s a reason people are down-voting you.
Also, you’re making a lot of assumptions about what the app is for, and still posit no actual proof of your position. You have made an assumption here and when confronted about your opinion based on that assumption you have continued to double down instead of even considering the alternatives.
And speed traps aren’t intended to be a detterant. I don’t know why you think that’s the case but in fact they are set up specifically to catch speeders. The deterrence is a bonus. But a lot of police departments make money for their municipality via speeding tickets. So don’t try to play like we can just ignore this so you can feel like you’ve won.
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Bit of a meltdown you had there mate. Are you ok?