Hold on.
There’s reasons to kill someone‽
“If someone tries to kill you, you kill 'em right back.” - Malcolm Reynolds, Firefly
Please…
You can almost always try to kiss someone and they’ll recoil and back down. Or is that just me?
Ime it works great for small town guys.
Except Bill. Bill… Bill went all the way.
We didn’t exactly stop the Nazis through polite conversation
Self defense is generally a pretty good reason.
You went to sleep in the driver’s seat of a vehicle at a festival, hit the parking brake with your unconscious hand, and rolled over a tent with somebody in it.
They diss your mom in a COD lobby. (Happened IRL)
In what circumstances would you consider murder a smart choice?
When someone is about to testify about Boeing’s safety violations.
Someone trying to kill me or my kids. Maybe I’d still die but I’m taking that person with me.
You could stop them without murdering them
It’s fascinating how often this actually is a viable option.
Bold of you to think everyone could be reasoned with.
There’s a broad spectrum between reason and murder. You could tackle them, or bonk them with a stick, or distract them with shiny objects.
It’s really hard to say without being in that specific situation, but if someone was literally trying to kill me my only goal would be to put them down and make sure they’re not getting up to try again.
I mean stuff like knocking them out, tieing them up etc. not just flat out murder people. What the hell?!
Maybe in some instances of self-defence?
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There is no good reason to kill. Only bad excuses
Sounds like someone who’s never been in a self defense situation.
IRL when you are in a self defence situation, you are already laying on the floor bleeding profusely and/or knocked out, I’m talking from personal experience, most of the time you get sucker punched or/and jumped on or/and punched in the back of the head or/and assaulters have weapons, so unless you’re heavily trained, when self defence situation happens you’re not gonna protect yourself, as Mike Tyson said, everyone have a plan before they got punched in the mouth, so unless you can act on trained “instincts” you gonna get stomped on the head
Oh you’re certainly correct. Self defense training should be mandatory IMO. Both with and without weapons.
My point was that a life or death situation changes the “there’s no good reason to kill” argument.
I believe the point of their argument is killing is ok if your in a life or death self defense situation.
Whether you are actually able to defend yourself is irrelevant for that point to be true.
I have taken Mike’s advice into every fight I’ve been in. No amount of armchair training can prepare you for when your adrenaline really hits.
Absolutely this, however, doing drills and sparrings is necessary so your body know how to move without your mind, i mean, completely untrained people just flailing and doing haymakers while those who doing drills at least can throw some straights and jabs and clinch and double leg takedown and some throws, at least i can do this automatically without thinking
Some personal experience: I’ve trained a little, I’m not a professional fighter. All my very few fights have been street fights. I’ve been trained how to takedown but I can’t find enough thought to actually do it fight. The absolute best thinking I’ve ever done in a fight was remembering my boxing hits and even that was more of a flash than a rational thought. Honestly the thought “RUN!” comes up more often in a fight for me than anything actually useful to fight.
Yes) this! You train for exact that flash of memories when your body do the job without mind intact, body just by reflexes should act on self defence, because everyone’s mind screaming to run and muscles are becoming like jelly when time to fight comes, i mean every country trains their professional soldiers exactly for this, so their body would work/fight properly without mind intact
Sounds like an argument I wouldn’t win, no matter how valid arguments i present, so I won’t bother
Well thats rather defeatist. Also I wasn’t tryna start an argument breh. If you wanna have a conversation we can do that.
But… but… someone is WRONG on the INTERNET… are you just gonna let that slide?
/s obviously
Why do you think I’m wrong?
I don’t. I was referring to the other guys willingness to simply not engage in a discussion stemming from disagreements. Not every opinion different from ones own requires a response. Not every discussion needs to be an argument.
Luckily 100% of the people i know are in this situation and the society around me push the general idea that killing is always wrong no matter what. And it works.
Then yes, condition may change in third world countries
Because they’ve given you everything you’ve ever wanted, been nothing but genuinely kind to you, and done nothing you’ve ever disagreed with.
These other answers are dumb, but for it to be the dumbest it has to be dumber than “they did something I don’t think is wrong” and instead is “they did something that everyone agrees is right.”
Looked at me funny
Because they don’t have same color skin.
Pol Pot mass murdered anyone wearing glasses.
A few years back it snowed in Seattle, which is uncommon. I saw a video where folks were having a snowball fight, as you do. A snowball entered the partially open window of a driver. The lady proceeded to Hop the curb, and drive up some embankments trying to hit people with her car.
For a fuckin snowball.
Guy I know was in his car when it was hit by kids having a snowball fight. So he drove straight at them onto the pavement, trapped them in a shop doorway and cracked their heads together before heading in his way. There was an article in the local paper about the police looking for him because one of the kids suffered a broken jaw. He still feels that it was a justifiable course of action .
That guy is a fuckin menace, and a liar to boot. If he really thought he was justified he’d have turned himself in to the police, but he knew what he did was wrong even if he will never admit it to anyone including himself.
The dude is an asshole, but this is bad legal advice. Never talk to the cops directly. Always go through your lawyer.
Yes, I - a not-lawyer - am dispensing legal advice on this internet forum post. Fine work identifying it as such, detective; I’ll see you back at the law factory.
That guy is a fuckin menace, and a liar to boot.
Yes and yes. I am frequently shocked at the things he will admit to doing.
Iraq accepting Euros for their oil.
You want them to live
What if we are in a simulation and the only way to truly live is to die in the simulation?
Some guy once killed a man over a beanie baby
