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    7th grade science test question: What would evolve faster, a virus that can create millions of new copies every day, or a chicken.

    Apparently RFK jr thinks the chickens will evolve immunity faster than the virus can evolve to jump to humans.

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      If the pressure is right, the virus should evolve to be less lethal. If the virus kills its host before infecting a new host, then that evolution is not advantageous. This is why low contact was a good tactic for COVID. Only the strains that were less lethal would continue and out complete the ones that kill people.

      Unfortunately I doubt that he would mandate a good management of this. In a environment like barn chickens live in, the virus can transmit so regularly that the lethality is not a pressure for it.

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      Or doesn’t realize that evolutionary pressure tends to kill the shit oudda anything that ain’t up to snuff…bye bye poultry industry. Likely doesn’t care tho. Seems like a steak every night kinda guy.

      Imagine if it were a Prion problem instead. Think he’d be like FEED THE COWS MORE COW! THEY’LL TOUGH IT OUT!

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        Yeah, but it could take several generations of chickens until “resistant” evolves into being immune enough to not lose half the flock every time. And in the mean time since human farmers will have to be tending to the chickens in some way, there always a risk of the virus jumping to humans.

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          If the options are

          • culling
          • vaccination
          • breeding resistance

          Culling should be the last resort. I get that everything rfk jr touches turns to roadkill, but this is less on the crazy spectrum than some of his other antics.

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      I think it’s part of a psuedo-religious death cult thing trying to force the apocalypse to happen. War and Death are easy. They’re hard at work on Famine and Pestilence.

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        wtf do they get from it though. i get how war makes them money, disease is not that clear.

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      I think there’s a few things going on.

      On one side, you have Americans that have deep-rooted anti-intellectualism. You see this as the myriad of anti-woke, anti-vax, anti-science attitudes. These ideas aren’t grounded in anything useful or real, but leaders in the far-right find these attitudes useful in various ways for pushing their cause. I don’t think there’s an actual goal of promoting disease necessarily… it’s more that the further right-wingers can push people into extreme points of view, the easier it is to keep them there. It wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of drivel in the anti-woke/anti-science sphere today became popular due to clickbait engagement, though, this movement has been promoted generally by the right wing for a long time.

      I also wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some aspect of foreign influence going on as well. Russia has been working for decades at destabilizing the US. The spreading of disease here would definitely work towards that goal, so long as it doesn’t generate a new pandemic that might bite them too.

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        but like… how does spreading disease makes them any money? if anything they are losing money mid to long term.

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          Like I said, it’s just a side effect. They make money off the grift.

          Prior to his current position as Secretary of Undermining Health, RFK Jr. was the head of the Children’s Health Defense, whose mission is to defend children’s health from various things that improve it, such as vaccines and fluoridated drinking water.

          From the linked Wikipedia page:

          From $13,000 in annual revenue in 2014, World Mercury Project brought in $470,000 in revenue in 2015, when Kennedy joined the organization. Its revenues increased to $1.1 million in 2018. With the group becoming a major disinformation hub during the COVID-19 pandemic, its revenue reached $6.8 million in 2020, $15 million in 2021, counting among its new donors LimeWire’s founder Mark Gorton,[6][64] and $23.5 million in 2022.[31]

          Basically, it’s just another variation of rallying people against a problem that doesn’t exist. Once you have their support, you can start asking them for money. And since your cause is a farce, you don’t have to worry about getting results - just keep banging that drum and let the donations roll in. An unfortunate side effect is that you might eventually start succeeding at eliminating public health measures, but who cares as long as you’re getting paid?

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    Since Tyson is shutting down chicken abattoirs all over the US, who needs all those birds? Let them get sick and cull the roost. It’s not like they pose a threat to hoomans or anything.

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    Costco chicken! Now pre chlorinated and triple kiln fried in real hydrochloric acid! Now with 99% less weak flu!

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    258,000,000

    But this guy in particular can’t be fully human. Swims in sewage contaminated water, eats roadkill, has dead brainworm that’s probably controlling his mind. He’s also like one layer of skin away from being one of the nightmare things from “They Live.”

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      That’s because to him herd=food. I seriously wouldn’t be surprised to find out one day that’s he’s a cannibal.

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        It’s grammatically correct, but maybe not semantically correct. Grammar has to do with word ordering and stuff. Semantics has to do with word meaning.

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    I know that if farmers love one thing, it’s deliberately losing a ton of money. I’m sure they’ll be thrilled with this idea.

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    Secret plan to force everyone to be vegan by killing all the animals. Checkmate humans!

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    What’s more, the mortality rate of H5N1 is extremely high among common poultry, reaching 100% in domestic chickens.

    Cheers to the new pandemic 🍻

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    I feel bad for the chickens. But they probably live in a hellhole anyway, so maybe they at least get to take some humans with them.

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      Still butt hurt eh? Next time get a candidate who is actually supported by the base. Makes it easy to win.

      The fact that genocide is a bar you consider a nice to have says more anout you than the people who withheld their vote because she couldnt commit to upholding one specific law we already have in the books. Probably the easiest thing in the world for a president to do.

      You fuckers cant even fall back on rhe jew vote excuse anymore after nyc mayor prinary.

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        Still think the important issue is who’s “butthurt” eh? That’s why the country is doomed. The problem with finding a liberal candidate supported by the base is that memes can’t run for President. Just go back to scrolling on your phone and keep telling yourself none of what MAGA is doing is your fault.

        edit: I’m gonna expand a little for people who keep saying Harris was a bad candidate who didn’t get the support of “the base”. She got 75 million fucking votes, Trump just got 2.3 million more. The “base” voted for her just fine, it was the FRINGE who didn’t.

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          😂 next time dont put a candidate up who supports a genocide, cant be bothered to support workers, and couldnt even break 5% in a primary and maybe your candidate will win.

          The only people you have to blame for this is you morons who chanted vote blue no matter who and harris who ran a dog shit campaign.

          Its like you dumbasses dont know the first thing about how reality works and unfortunately we’re all suffering because of it

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            The way reality works is that you never get everything you want, and you often have to make the least bad choice available. Refusing to vote so you can maintain your own moral purity makes you the dumbass.

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              ROFL. tell me my friend, how is trump working out for you? lol. the lack of self reflection on your end is hilarious.

              the lack of ability in recognizing that the least bad choice rationalization is that there are a significant number of people who consider trump to be said choice.

              A candidates job is to prove they’re said candidate and sadly supporting a genocide, actively suppressing minority groups within your campaign, ignoring/fucking over the working class, etc proves to many people that you’re not the least bad choice on a ballot of 5.

              next time dont play the ‘best option we have’ game because other people dont agree with your premise. make sure the option you put forward is the least bad.

              welcome to reality. enjoy your trumpettes.

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                If you actually think I like Trump there’s no point even trying to talk to you. Sorry if any of these words are too big.

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                  Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension but that is unsurprising most kamala / biden / dnc enablers do have issues in that regard. Probably why you think voting for any candidate who enables a genocide is the right thing to do. 👍Enjoy your continued losses to fascists.

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                Saying Harris was a bad candidate or that the Dems ran a bad campaign is objectively bullshit. When election day came she was second only to Obama in her rise in popularity, and doing it in only a few months is objectively amazing. But Trump’s win can’t be the fault of people who refused to vote for her because they focused on the Israel/Gaza issue and ignored every other fucking issue, can it? Naw, you were just being ethically pure. And how’d that work out for Palestinians? Really swooped in and saved the day there! I’m sure all the people getting deported would also want to thank you for being so ethical. Way to go! So would everybody who’s gonna die because they won’t be able to pay for their meds. And the ones who are losing their science jobs. And science itself - science is fucking STOKED that you have such pristine morals. Way to go!!!