• Yetanotherpaolo@feddit.nl
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    The freedom of religion to continue enabling child rapists.

    Perhaps all religion should die along with the cunts in charge.

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      Catholic doctrine is the privacy of the confessional is absolute. Plus there’s an argument that even the worst offender should have a place to unburden and beg forgiveness. Obviously forgiveness doesn’t need to be granted.

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        I feel like absolute confidentiality for sins that harm yourself fine… but actively stealing the innocence of youth shouldn’t be protected, it’s reprehensible and anyone protecting abuse should be charged

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          Of course it’s reprehensible, but confidentiality can be what lets them speak up. It’s not a matter of protecting or not protecting the victims, but attempting to encourage the perpetrator to admit their crime and take responsibility, at least to themselves.

  • Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
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    Even more evidence that it is far safer to leave your kids with a drag queen (or king) than the clergy.

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      This is a tragically close-minded opinion. You sound hurt and angry. I hope you get well.

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        It’s an opinion born of history. I hope you learn some history at some point.

        Notice that I didn’t say faith is a cancer. Faith is one thing, religion is a whole other beast. Religion exists for one purpose, the same purpose it has always existed for. Control of the masses. That’s it.

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    The fact they would protect abusers just to comply with their faith speaks volumes about their priorities. I mean it’s no surprise when they already protect the predators within their ranks, so why not do the same with their followers?

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      More specifically, Washington State (and most other states) have mandated reporter laws regarding child abuse. If your profession is on the list, you are a mandated reporter. Construction workers are an example of people not mandated reporters. If they suspect abuse they should say something but aren’t legally mandated. Teachers, nurses, and clergy are examples of mandated reporters. They have to say something. The carve out is if the priest learns the information during a sacramental confession. Outside of the confessional, he still reports. But because people stop going to confession when priests don’t have the seal of the confessional, churches maintain that requirement. Child abusers aren’t going to confess to someone who will report that confession to the government so it isn’t like this law was going to stop any abuse. In fact, more abuse might happen when perverts have no one to turn to when they need someone to deal with their messed up psychology.

      • ubergeek@lemmy.today
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        Teachers, nurses, and clergy are examples of mandated reporters.

        Well, mandated, until they want to protect a rapist. Then they are protected from having to disclose they exchanged tips with a fellow child rapist.

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    Luigi Mangione’s religion requires that he sacrifice health care executives, but I don’t see any judges standing up for him.

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    Freedom absolutism is great!

    You can’t take away my freedom to rape kids!

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    Wow! But if I “overheard” part of this “confession” as a “mandated reporter” BY FED LAW (confessionals are NOT SOUND PROOF), I can go to jail if I do not report what I overheard and the government found out I knew… straight to court!

    Yet, these fucks get a hall pass to keep fucking with kids “because of religion”, religion doesn’t give you the freedom to fuck with kids but the Catholics would know the most about fucking with kids wouldn’t they?!?! Appalling! Our nation is fucked!

    I mean, am I surprised when our “president” is a know pedophile who talked about his own daughter sexually and was besties with Epstein!? WHERE IS THE CLIENT LIST!? We know Drumpf was probs the invite NUMBER 1 and FUNDED it! 🤦🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

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    I mean, so if my religion says I can diddle kids and kill republicans, is that legal now?

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      It’s seem that two classes of people pedophiles protected in the country are priests & billionaires.

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        They just got a lot less obvious about it over the years. Fewer “compounds” and more “congregations” and “constituents”

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          I’ve heard in passing New York has some Catholic communities that are pretty culty. Not saying other types of Christian aren’t also, but specifically some branches of Catholic in New York state

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      In the like 40% chance you’re actually dumb enough to ask this unironically, no, what this means is if you work a confessional booth as part of your religion and somebody admits to diddling kids and killing republicans in the past tense then you not saying anything about it is legal.

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        Not only is it legal to keep quiet, you’ll face consequences from your religious institution if you report what you know.

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              Okay sure, but why do you have to make false statements in response to the bad ruling? Why do you get upset when people correct you for that?

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                  That its legal to rape and murder, you think thats a factual statement? That catholic priests are gaining special privileges by not facing charges for a law specifically targetting confessionals? You think these are all true?

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          Just because someone gets to do it doesn’t mean it’s legal. This mentality gives justification/defense to these acts.

          Specifically, this is about forced reporting of sex abuse against children to authorities, not about the act itself.

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            Just because someone gets to do it doesn’t mean it’s legal.

            Legal or illegal is immaterial. Who is punished for it, and who is protected from punishment is what matters.

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    Let’s get this straight.

    Psychiatrist are required to break doctor patient confidentiality if patient is a threat, right and report it.

    Lawyers must report crimes to law enforcement, breaking confidentiality too.

    But priests are ‘sprcial’ in the magic, secret telling closets?