A man was dragged from his car by enraged bystanders and shot after he plowed a vehicle into a crowd in Los Angeles, leaving seven people critically injured and at least 23 others hurt outside a nightclub early Saturday morning, police said.
Cameras in the area are still being canvassed, but the incident appears to have been intentional, according to the Los Angeles Police Department.
Two law enforcement sources familiar with the situation said the suspect was kicked out of the venue for being intoxicated and disruptive.
Yeah, you’re absolutely right. But most lemmykins (like maga) will readily abandon all their principles if somebody they don’t like gets hurt. Hence your down votes.
Strict gun control is more of a liberal ideology and Lemmy leans pretty far left.
They’re literally cheering for a guy who shot somebody…
Right…but what does that have to do with abandoning principles?
My point is that there is no uniform set of principles, and that crude forms of justice might not inherently conflict with their principles.
So they just have no principles. Interesting defense.
Or just principles that are different from your own ethical construct. I’m no more defending the gunman than you are defending the driver, I’m just correcting your critique.
In my personal opinion it’s not something I would condone, I’m also not going to lose any sleep over it. Tbh I don’t know how violent I would feel if some drunk loser ran over any of my loved ones, and I don’t think you really know either despite all your moral grandstanding.
I’m not saying people “should feel bad” about it I’m saying they shouldn’t be advocating for lawless action just because they’re angry.
And as it happens - I have a very good idea of what it would feel like. You don’t know me.
Interesting rephrasing considering I already said “In my personal opinion it’s not something I would condone”…
I’m sure you know exactly how it feels to have your friends/family deliberately attacked in a mass casualty event by a drunk driver at a festival…
Again, your feelings and opinions are just that… opinions. Your opinions are not more morally or ethically superior to anyone’s else’s just because you believe in them. Laws do not dictate morality or reality and are just as flawed as any other social construct.
So then what are you arguing against then? You agree with me that lawlessness is not the answer. People in this thread shouldn’t be condoning lawless behavior.
That’s a thread you don’t want to pull buddy.
Ahhh - post-modern “there is no truth” BS. No. My opinion here is definitely more moral and justified. It’s not simply my opinion either - it’s the conclusion of many enlightenment philosophers, scholars and legal minds. It’s the basis for the modern liberal democracy legal system that concentrates the power to punish in the government to provide for a stable society.
Personally, not cheering for it, but I can’t muster any more sympathy than a shrug. The more and more I see how broken the justice system is, the less concerned I am about mob “justice”.
You didn’t have to be personally sympathetic to still want the right thing to be done.
As I said - principles abandoned. I have zero faith in lawlessness.
I’ve never wished death upon anybody, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.
Oh I’d absolutely fucking love for everyone to face a fair trial and get a just punishment for their wrongdoings. However, I also understand that that’s just never going to happen, and when someone receives some clearly deserved violence, it won’t upset me. I’d rather have luigi than nothing.
So just lawless MAGA shooting up the place to get revenge is “fine”. Gotcha.
Nice logical fallacy there.
So it’s only good when you want to do it?
If you go far enough left, you get your guns back.
My principles include finishing violence others start against me and mine. Being a pushover bitch isn’t a principle.
“Don’t tread on me” eh?
Appreciate you speaking up! Sorry you’re also getting downvoted by idiots who think they can just play justice league.