Do you prefer eternal stagnacy just to keep unskilled jobs?
No judgment towards “unskilled” but some jobs just die out and create new jobs.
The horse’s carts might be gone, but we have cars now with millions of diverse jobs plus legwork.
I prefer a car over a horse-ride.
And a house over a hut.
And mobile phones over smoke-signals or pidgeons.
no, i’m arguing for the opposite. as soon as we have our needs taken care of, we can slow the fuck down and let the machines do the work for us.
we can toil less and less as technological advancements come around, instead of throwing away our privileged lives for making boss richer and richer for no good reason.
That I’d wholeheartedly agree with. We long have reached a state of extreme productivity. Yet the spoils of labour is basically still the same. At least for the 99.9%
We gave up “all-flat-terrain”, carbon neutral, semi-self driving things and got “this road is not paved so I’ll shake you so much that your baby will die”, “created new jobs: climate disaster control”, “just currently getting some self-driving capabilities”.
I’m half-joking of course, cars are great for long distance travel but you could argue humanity would be far better (apart from GDP) if we have no roads in the cities.
There’s an almost unlimited amount of work to do. The elderly/children to care for, the art to be made, the research to be done, etc. Tractors freed up a huge amount of the world population to work on other things, current technology does the same.
The problem is that humans have made a system of tightly controlling what work gets valued, how much it gets paid, what should be done and gatekeeping qualifications/resources to be allowed to do things.
no there isn’t unlimited work we HAVE to do. we are just slaves of the system tightly controlling our work, so people can profit massively off of our work.
we can slow the fuck down and enjoy the amazing things we have created a lil more.
To cRazi_man’s point there is some work that does needs to be done in order to ensure everyone has food, water, shelter, healthcare, free of poison, etc.
However the vast majority of human labor does not go towards those goals and is instead dedicated to who can get the highest score in ‘slave games’ while that necessary work is grossly undermanned.
It’s not “unlimited” but holy shit is there a lot of damage from the last ~200 years that needs to be undone. Learning and teaching people to rest is a very important one.
Modern horses usually have a short rough life and they are sent to the sausage factory from slightest joint ache. Luckiest end up in some petting farm.
Depends very much on the country they are in. Racehorses don’t tend to live very long and there’s still places where horses are being used for transportation, especially in remote mountainous regions.
There are geographical differences, but in most places their upkeep is expensive and they are mostly used for racing or as beasts of burden. They don’t need much health problems to loose their worth and go to the butchers real easy.
It is true already. Washing machines, dishwashers, tractors, lifts, escalators, cars, computers, cnc, power tools, cranes, etc. They make our life much more relaxed.
then why do i still have to work 9-6 like the computers i use arent making me as productive as a full room of bureaucrats were 40 years ago, while making a fraction of the actual money they did then?
the standard of living is deteriorating though. we don’t have as good healthcare, transport or housing we had just a decade ago. the difference is we have more advanced electronics?
horses probably get to live a much more chill life now that they are retired.
i just wish thatd be true for humans too. machines already replace most of us.
Do you prefer eternal stagnacy just to keep unskilled jobs? No judgment towards “unskilled” but some jobs just die out and create new jobs. The horse’s carts might be gone, but we have cars now with millions of diverse jobs plus legwork. I prefer a car over a horse-ride. And a house over a hut. And mobile phones over smoke-signals or pidgeons.
no, i’m arguing for the opposite. as soon as we have our needs taken care of, we can slow the fuck down and let the machines do the work for us.
we can toil less and less as technological advancements come around, instead of throwing away our privileged lives for making boss richer and richer for no good reason.
That I’d wholeheartedly agree with. We long have reached a state of extreme productivity. Yet the spoils of labour is basically still the same. At least for the 99.9%
We gave up “all-flat-terrain”, carbon neutral, semi-self driving things and got “this road is not paved so I’ll shake you so much that your baby will die”, “created new jobs: climate disaster control”, “just currently getting some self-driving capabilities”.
I’m half-joking of course, cars are great for long distance travel but you could argue humanity would be far better (apart from GDP) if we have no roads in the cities.
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There’s an almost unlimited amount of work to do. The elderly/children to care for, the art to be made, the research to be done, etc. Tractors freed up a huge amount of the world population to work on other things, current technology does the same.
The problem is that humans have made a system of tightly controlling what work gets valued, how much it gets paid, what should be done and gatekeeping qualifications/resources to be allowed to do things.
no there isn’t unlimited work we HAVE to do. we are just slaves of the system tightly controlling our work, so people can profit massively off of our work.
we can slow the fuck down and enjoy the amazing things we have created a lil more.
To cRazi_man’s point there is some work that does needs to be done in order to ensure everyone has food, water, shelter, healthcare, free of poison, etc.
However the vast majority of human labor does not go towards those goals and is instead dedicated to who can get the highest score in ‘slave games’ while that necessary work is grossly undermanned.
It’s not “unlimited” but holy shit is there a lot of damage from the last ~200 years that needs to be undone. Learning and teaching people to rest is a very important one.
Modern horses usually have a short rough life and they are sent to the sausage factory from slightest joint ache. Luckiest end up in some petting farm.
Where do you even get that from? Most horses are pampered lawn ornaments.
Depends very much on the country they are in. Racehorses don’t tend to live very long and there’s still places where horses are being used for transportation, especially in remote mountainous regions.
oh no :( how so?
There are geographical differences, but in most places their upkeep is expensive and they are mostly used for racing or as beasts of burden. They don’t need much health problems to loose their worth and go to the butchers real easy.
It is true already. Washing machines, dishwashers, tractors, lifts, escalators, cars, computers, cnc, power tools, cranes, etc. They make our life much more relaxed.
then why do i still have to work 9-6 like the computers i use arent making me as productive as a full room of bureaucrats were 40 years ago, while making a fraction of the actual money they did then?
Machines make your life chill.
Buisness owners though strive for hell.
And working class likes it. Otherwise where strikes.
i think working class brainwashed
The working class genuinely believes they’re “middle class”
The middle class is a lie pushed by the rich to keep the working class subservient.
Capitalism
hate that shit
Because with productivity the standard of living that most people expect has risen at least as much.
the standard of living is deteriorating though. we don’t have as good healthcare, transport or housing we had just a decade ago. the difference is we have more advanced electronics?