• Zombiepirate@lemmy.world
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    The plea deal from 2008? Yes it was shady, but I don’t see how that’s relevant to my point.

    The arrest and death being shady as fuck also aligns with my hypothesis that they gave him the means and opportunity to kill himself as a cover-up, so I’m not sure how that’s an argument against it.

    Why would they offer him something? Why would he believe that they would follow through? Didn’t they know he was suicidal anyway? Why not just push him towards that? Why would he be willing to kill himself for a Maxwell pardon?

    I’m not saying it’s impossible, just that it isn’t the simplest explanation.

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      Why would they offer him something?

      Because his main campaign strategy was centered around bring epstein (and others) to justice. Remember Trump honestly wants to be a Mob Boss. (listen to him glow when talking about old mob movies and criminals.)

      Why would he think they would follow through?

      They made him an offer he “couldn’t refuse.” (Trump thinks he’s a mob boss!)

      Didn’t they know he was suicidal anyway?

      Just like a yakuza drone becomes suicidal when he enters a room prepared just for him and there’s just a short sword on the table?

      Why not just push him towards that?

      They did.

      Why ups he be willing to kill himself for a Maxwell pardon.

      One again. Did he have a choice?

      All my opinion. But these idiots are not that deep. Trying to get into their heads is a waste of time. It’s usually way simpler than you think.

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        Because his main campaign strategy was centered around bring epstein (and others) to justice. Remember Trump honestly wants to be a Mob Boss. (listen to him glow when talking about old mob movies and criminals.)

        But what does the administration get out of it? Especially if he was planning to kill himself anyway, as shown by his previous attempt. This line doesn’t rule out my possibility, and mine explains everything while being simpler.

        They made him an offer he “couldn’t refuse.” (Trump thinks he’s a mob boss!)

        Or he was facing life in prison and didn’t want to deal with it, as is very common in US prisons. Solitary confinement also drastically increases the chances of suicide, and we knew he attempted it before. Why introduce the Maxwell pardon narrative? This line doesn’t rule out my possibility, and mine explains everything while being simpler.

        One again. Did he have a choice?

        I don’t know if he had a choice, and you don’t either. This doesn’t rule out my possibility, and mine explains everything while being simpler.

        Trying to get into their heads is a waste of time. It’s usually way simpler than you think.

        I’m advocating for the simple possibility here, and respectfully I’m getting “into their heads” a lot less than you are. We’re not even that far apart: I think it’s likely that the DoJ put Epstein in a situation where they were pretty sure he’d off himself. That’s effectively murder in my book.