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    He’s like the brightest lighthouse in the galaxy blasting out the message “I AM TOTALLY GUILTY” with this diversion shit

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    The Epstein files are going to fuck him over. There’s probably pics of his naked fat ass and his Fat Bastard baby dick.

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      Who are you kidding. Those files will never see the light of day. And if the unredacted files ever did - his cult followers would believe any bullshit Trunp said about how it’s all lies and fabrication by Joe Biden or whatever. Nah Trunps never leaving the White House. It’s as plain as day.

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      Doesn’t look like people an mass give a fuck actually. Until he dies of a heart attack, he’s gonna be invincible. That comment about shooting people and not loosing support was probably first and only true thing he told in public.

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    Short answer: good luck with that. Deployable up to 100K. Total population you’re trying to control is 15 million. So 1 per 150 citizens.

    Except it obviously would quickly need to include the Bay Area, St Louis, Indianapolis, Portland, Seattle etc

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      I think you dropped this:

      • supported genocide
      • supported an unpopular president
      • ran on unpopular policies
      • let the voters know that she didn’t care about what they wanted
      • wanted to keep the US military the “most lethal fighting force” despite the fact that we use them to kill innocent people
      • gaslit the voters on the economy

      Is Trump still worse? yes, absolutely. But maybe the Democrats could try running candidates that aren’t obviously terrible if they want to win.

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      We had a bad choice and a worse choice. So i said let it all fall.

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        We had a bad choice and a worse choice. So i said let it all fall. I’m a sociopath that’s fine with seeing minorities being brutalized and killed so long as I can maintain some kind of bullshit ideological purity.

        FTFY

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          Now I voted (not that it would have mattered as Kamala was going to win my state regardless), but for the sake of argument I also didn’t see minorities NOT being brutalized and killed under Biden or Obama. Or Clinton for that matter.

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        So i said let it all fall.

        At lest vote 3rf party.

        Otherwise the material reality is that you got out the way for the worse choice. Obstruction isn’t ideal, but its helpful none the less

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        At least with the bad choice more people would have energy and resources to fight back in more meaningful ways.

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          Worse option is exiling American citizens, tanking the economy, persecuting minorities, taking away rights, ignoring the constitution and, notably, full backing genocide in Gaza.

          Bad option would not act to stop genocide in Gaza.

          Clearly the same thing.

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            Worse option is exiling American citizens, tanking the economy, persecuting minorities, taking away rights, ignoring the constitution and, notably, full backing genocide in Gaza.

            I saw all of these things happen under the past few “bad options”.

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      That was never the criticism from anyone actually opposing Trump. The criticism is that she built her career as a cop, locking people up for minor offenses, fighting to keep them in prison for cheap labor, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth. But sure, go ahead and whitewash her record because it’s easier to joke than to confront the fact that your “lesser evil” still has blood on her hands.

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        That was never the criticism from anyone actually opposing Trump.

        Yes it was. It was a dumb and invalid argument, but it came up more often than it ever should have. It was an EXCUSE to not vote for her, because it was easier to say that than to admit that they’re just afraid of a woman in power.

        I realize there were many more valid reasons to dislike her but compared to trump, she’s a goddamn saint. Plus, I liked her VP pick better than trump’s. She also would have selected a much more competent and qualified cabinet.

        The criticism is that she built her career as a cop, locking people up for minor offenses, fighting to keep them in prison for cheap labor, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth.

        Those are all valid criticisms, but trump built his career as a criminal, is deporting people for minor offenses, fighting to deport innocent people to prison labor camps in countries they are not even from, and then went on to campaign for the most lethal military machine on Earth.

        So comparing the two with just those criticisms, it’s a wash. And then adding on all the other AWFUL shit trump is doing, especially “project 2025,” it’s no contest.

        But sure, go ahead and whitewash her record because it’s easier to joke than to confront the fact that your “lesser evil” still has blood on her hands.

        I’m not whitewashing anything, I made a sarcastic comment mocking the misogynists who have put a LITERAL AUTHORITARIAN MADMAN in the presidency because they couldn’t handle a woman president.

        When our choices are : lesser evil or absolute evil (and the third choice is: just let absolute evil win), we really can’t let petty things like “annoying laugh” (again- just a lame excuse for misogyny) go.

        I was accused of having “blood in my hands” for voting for Harris. But really, protest voting against Harris is drenching yourself in that same blood plus gallons more.

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          I said criticism, you think no one who opposed Trump should have criticised former cop who built her career on locking people up?

          ACAB, just not one of the worst kind?

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            She was an attorney working for the executive branch, not a cop. Applying for a job higher up in the executive branch. If we are going to call everyone who executes the laws bastards, then you can’t vote for anybody to join the executive branch, as you are willingly choosing to make them a bastard apparently.

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              Just so everyone is on the same page, to you the slogan All Cops Are Bastards applies not to all corrupt people in the legal system that abuse us and imprison us, but it’s exclusively police officers?

              Just checking.

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        I only really saw those criticisms of her from people already on the left. What I saw (in generalized and slightly exaggerated manner) from conservatives was, “NO, SHE’S A LIBERAL, WOKE, COMMUNIST WHO WANTS TO DESTROY AMERICA!”

        To which most people I saw on the left respond with, “Communist? The former cop and DA?”

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          Every criticism presented is completely true. She would have been better than trump, but she was a terrible Democratic candidate. She would have made a better Republican candidate. Her campaign would only needed to have focused on her prosecutorial career.

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            Hope the next election (if there is one) goes your way and the candidate is perfect.

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              • supports a genocide
              • supports torture programs
              • supports increasing military and intelligence funding
              • supports deporting innocent people
              • supports a highly unpopular president
              • runs on highly unpopular policies

              I think you might have a skewed definitions of what “perfect” means. I think most people would settle for “not a monster” but that’s too high of a bar for the DNC.

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              That, but unironically.

              Winning a presidential election isn’t about the votes that are cast. It’s about the voters that stay home. It’s really difficult to get people to the polls when your entire platform is “a little less evil than the other guy.”.

              I voted for the lesser evil, and I know why so many did not. You do us no favors by refusing to recognize that the lesser evil is still evil.

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      they dont fear confrontation because they think they have the means to jail, out-shoot, and out-kill the “Left”

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            My sweet summer child. Part of the oath says you will obey the orders of the President. Soldiers are also highly conditioned to obey orders unquestionably. There’s no time for a moral debate on the battlefield.

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              Which is why he cleared out a lot of the higher ups. If any loyalty to the constitution still remains though, the current higher ups should reject the president’s orders that go against it, meaning the lower level soldiers will still be following orders by also rejecting unlawful orders.

              I’m not super hopeful but that’s how it’s supposed to work.

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    Look, the Epstein shit is important, and it’s important that we keep it in the conversation, but this isn’t a fucking distraction. Do people seriously not understand how dire this is? This isn’t a fucking joke. We are deep into full-on fascism now.

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      thanks man, finally someone else saying it!

      We’ve been chasing the dragon since 2016: This is gonna bring him down, that is gonna bring him down, oh no but wait, this is definitely going to finish him off. How is the Epstein story ever going to harm him in any way?

      In reality those things are the distractions from the real shit that’s been happening. Now that he’s accelerating his fascist actions in plain sight, how dare anyone say it’s just a distraction? This narrative only works in his favour, jfc.

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      I work at Microsoft and they just did massive layoffs all of this year. Last round I was layed off. 9000 of us in the last round.

      I say this, because, I think people might associate tech jobs and education with being more liberal and pro immigrantion. This is not the case at all. The liberals are being offered fascism as a means to deal with their unemployment and will accept it with open arms as their material conditions decline. Most people I know from my job would absolutely join ICE for the paycheck as the tech sector lays off more and more people.

      I’m sure we are seeing this in other industries as well. But just sharing for mine. ICE is going to look like an attractive job for a lot “middle class” Americans to be able to make rent. None of them are having class conflict conversations either. These people have next to no idea of what is going on.

      We will not just get the hogs joining ICE. You’re gonna see a lot of liberals start to justify it as their livelihood starts to get connected to it too. This is how fascism works.

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        That’s a really good point. I remember at the most recent DEFCON, Cory Doctorow got a heckton of cheers when he was talking about tech workers waking up to the fact that they were workers, and are beginning to push towards unionising. In the comments, people were glad to hear the cheers, seeing it as evidence of the shifting tide that Doctorow spoke of.

        However, as you highlight, this mass squeezing of the middle class will also send a significant chunk of people over to Fascism. We definitely shouldn’t become complacent

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          I would say there are definitely some people that care as the industry becomes more and more exploited for its labor. But I have yet to meet a software developer that has connected their pro labor sentiment to real class solidarity.

          Most complain about H1 people taking their jobs but blame the H1 people themselves and not the corporation that is exploiting their labor.

          I try to explain to them that there is no labor movement in our industry that will be successful without H1 holders being on our side at the negotiating table.

          It’s a really hard thing to get through to a lot of people.

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        When the economy crashes it will be the ICE half of the poor killing the other half poor - that’s the plan.

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      As someone watching from out side, no shit. The us has crossed the Rubicon a while ago, no longer a nation based on laws, no longer a place that people have rights, no longer a place with free elections (well this one has been around for a bit with the stupid 2 party system) and no longer a place other nations want to do business with.

      The most infuriating part of this has been watching americans (and more of the rest of the world then I would have liked) act like this is all potentially bad and then normalizing just flat out dystopian shit. Like shit this is not even the first place troops have been deployed to put down political “wrong speak”.

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        This is exactly whats happening. Every fascist act is normalized. There is no line to cross. There are just constant moves that are more and more harmful. Sinclair Lewis wrote about this almost 100 years ago.